I need to make sure some prescriptions are filled before I think things that I don't want to say. (Featuring Joey Skladany)

Okay, look at us. We're all we all really booked right now with our hats on like, really top notch jocks. I mean, if we made for today they're so good. Yeah, I was practicing at night and they're actually not they're like, so good. And it's so simple. I'm so happy that they came out well, because everyone seems to like mess up all my recipes and they blame it on me. And I'm like, bitch, it doesn't take a lot of effort. The instructions batch. That's why I made a book. It's great. I love the book so far been going through it. I this is of course. rbg. So I started like making these every fucking day this past weekend. I'm like, I need to just post right now. going on. It's horrifying. Uh, so scary. And awful. Yeah, it's very, I saw you posted something. You're making cupcakes. You were like, well, I guess I need to just let it all right. I went on a damn rampage. I was like, I need to make sure some prescriptions are filled before I think things that I don't want to say. I had to get my birth control. Oh, shouldn't even joke. You shouldn't joke my dad ruined there. Yeah. So I so I'm going to start off by asking you just a random question. Did you grow up in Georgia? Were you born in Georgia? Or do you just grow up there? What's the deal of that? I lived in Georgia for seven years. So I got there when I was four. And then I left and fourth grade. I guess that puts me up. But I grew up I always say in Naples, Florida. So I was there from fourth grade to graduating. Okay, so we have like a really weird connection here because I grew up in Atlanta, north of Marietta. Just in Woodstock. Okay, yes. I grew up in Marietta when I was little. That's what I read. So I've been going down to Naples with my family for like 20 years now I think. Get connections everywhere else. Sure. Boulevard, honey. Oh, okay. Your parents got money. Yeah. Well, so tell us. Tell us about about yourself a little bit. Just, you know, your family, what kind of family grew up in and that kind of thing? Yeah, I'm officially on the record right now. I had a fairly, I hate to use the word normal, but it was a fairly normal upbringing, in terms of just having very supportive parents, a great Sister, I, you know, did live a very closeted life. Growing up, you know, I actually didn't come out until I was 22. But I was a gay stereotype through and through, like, I came out of my mom's womb wearing heels. And I instead of like partaking in, you know, stereotypically, I would say masculine or boyish things I wanted, I was stapling pieces of paper together and writing books. So I think this journey to create a book started when I was legit, like three years old, and I've just always been kind of creative minded. And I would have you know, I would just funny because I'm actually also very athletic and very competitive. But I would rather sit and draw pictures and write a book then take someone out in a sport any day. Well, actually depends on the sport. If it's volleyball, you're asked to trash a volleyball I'm a setter, so you can do whatever you want. Oh, yeah. Outside sat me. Go. Oh, wow. I favorite to set to not a volleyball or I should be the man that that were We were so tall that you could just block everything. Don't be one of those middles who gets to stand there and just put your hands in the air and we all look at you and know why didn't you invite me? Yeah. So your opinions are very athletic, though. Yeah, my mom is actually a competitive bodybuilder. And she's in her late 50s. She's insane freak of nature. And then my dad was a three time all American football player, linebacker and I come from an NFL family. My uncle played for the NFL, my great, my great uncle played for the NFL. And then there's me. So they try to get you to play like sports and stuff growing up, or do they let you kind of do your own thing? Yeah, you know, that's what my parents were great at. They were they never forced me to do something I didn't want to do but they always encouraged me to try everything they'll you have to try first. And an example is I actually did a question when I was younger. And I my mom was like, that's gonna be an expensive habit. So she's like, you have to try karate first because your sister's doing karate and she loves it. And I was like, I don't want to I don't fucking want to do karate. Um, but I did you sure as hell did. Knowing that I could get on a horse, you know, a week later, so they were really good about kind of letting me explore but I was very much like into sports. I was a gymnast, I was a soccer player. I have the competitive drive. I just hate to lose. And so yeah, but I my dad never actually forced me to do football. Funny enough. I was good at it. I played flag football in school. And I was an amazing free safety because I would chase a bitch down and be like, you're not scoring. And it was in your blood. So I mean, it's bound to happen, you know? You got it and my uncle's a punter. So that's where the soccer came in. So you go you that's the both worlds now I but yes, growing up, you play with Barbies growing up? Of course. How do you know that somewhere else? And I know, speaking of coming out of the womb in heels, I just remember like, I should have known earlier. I was playing with bars my cousin like, Oh, yeah, that's all I want me to do. I'm all day every day when Hollywood potty train and I asked for a Barbie as my present, though, so I was gifted a Barbie. So why did you come out so late? What was your coming out? Like? It was fine. It was actually my mom kind of forced me. I always say my coming out experience was everybody knew it was no big surprise. Like, oh my god, Joey's cluding he's gay. It was shock of the century. I was selfish. Because when I graduated, you know, being gay wasn't still, like, accepted. 100%. And I was so career driven. So to me being gay was detrimental. And anything that would have stood in front of me and becoming at the time the next anderson cooper who was not out, I was like, I'm not allowing it. So I was like, I'm gonna just be asexual. And when people ask me, I'm just gonna be like, none of your business. And that's just how I live my life. But I realized, I think later on when I started actually MPR that I could use being gay to my benefit, and it wasn't going to be detrimental. And society became more accepting. And then obviously, when gay marriage was passed, I was like, Okay, I feel comfortable. My own skin. I live in New York. I'm living my authentic self. And I need to continue my life this way. So amazing. So speaking of being in PR, so we have a friend that knows about you and was like, I want his cookbook so bad. And I was like, What do you want me to ask him? And she said, Honey boo, boo. Child, into like, the whole world of entertainment. I guess you could say like, what was your start and entertainment then go into Honey Boo Boo. Yes. So my certain entertainment, again, going back to me being Mr. Career focus, and just all about that. I did eight internships in college. And one of them was a publicity internship with Fox and LA and that, you know, I was on red carpets. I was at press junket. And I was just obsessed. I was like, you could not get enough of it. I always had an obsession with the entertainment industry. Ever since I was really young. I was always that go to guy like I, I always said my dream job was going to be taking Ryan Seacrest job at the news when he was there. And I wanted to host it. But I just I my first PR gig after college. Funny enough was repping Jerry Springer, Maury, Steve wilkos. And Judge Judy. So I did that. And then when I went to agency, one of our clients was discovery, who you know, owns TLC. And when the consumer division of my agency folded, they offered me a job. And that's how I started with, you know, boo, boo and a bunch of other shows. So that's neat. I didn't realize so what do you do exactly in PR, though, like, as far as with celebrities and stuff? Like, what does that job entail? Man? It's a lot of them. Yeah, it's a lot of everything. Your primary responsibility is to book all of their media appearances and press. So kind of what I'm doing today, like, I would have been that middleman being like, oh, I've got a great interview for you. It's a podcasts, she's not doing so well. We're gonna make it work. So, but when you got bigger name, talent, it's a lot of media training, because you're taking these everyday people and especially as you'll see with reality television, and you're turning them into overnight celebrities. So it's a lot of kind of, not necessarily coaching, but giving them examples of questions that may come their way. telling them what they can say, you know, like production stuff, you know, behind the scenes, like salary stuff, but um, yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot of crisis communication, too, because if something happens last minute, you're the one responding last minute and putting out a press release and Yeah, and then working with marketing and all the other teams, you know, to get clips out to media to plan events like book signings. You're working a lot with the talent department to do deals, you know, with different retailers. So you're just you're basically a representation beyond a manager. I was like, you just hang out. That's what you do. No, that's a lot of shit to do. publicists are the most underappreciated, I would say in entertainment, one of the most underappreciated jobs out there because you take everyone's shit, and you know, legit and you deal with that talent shit. You're there's like, Hi, Chris. So yeah, I mean, I was lucky. I've never really worked with anyone that I think is, like awful. Yeah, I because I kind of set that tone from the start. I'm like, I'm gonna treat you like a human not like Angelina Jolie who I think is not even human. She's just beyond. Like, you're gonna get to my level bitch from the get go. So mutual respect, you know? So, well, that is cool. Where do you want to connect with us? So let's talk about Okay, so what is one? I have this question. This might be a stupid ask question. I don't really care. What is missing one misconception people have about Honey Boo boos family. That was my only question about honey booboo, like is there a misconception? everybody's like, oh, they're just white trash or like, is that what? I think that there maybe just wasn't like love, and at least a little bit of intelligence behind it. Mama June at the time, it was not a state law. I don't know if it's still the case. But it wasn't a state law to put money from child stars into trusts, unlike California, where they're very strict about it. And Mama June would go out of her way to set up accounts for all of the kids to make sure that when they turn 1821, whatever the terms of their trust was, that they would have access to that money. And it was never really about the money with them. I mean, she, when I at least was there, she was still living in that one. Like it was essentially a trailer next to a train tracks, and they had no desire to move, they love their home. And she just even though their lifestyle was different people needed to take a step back, realize this is the lifestyle of MacIntyre, Georgia. And it actually reflects a lot of subcultures in America. So let's be less judgmental, and focus more on the fact that this is a family where they really do all just love each other. It's just shown in a different way. That's actually awesome. I would never you watch a show and it was I love the show. And it's like it almost is like an American staple in like, almost like pop culture in a way because people will talk about you say honey booboo, everything Oh, honey, Beverly knows how, you know? So that's pretty neat. That's pretty neat. So tell me about food. I mean, my favorite thing, my favorite thing. Tell us how you got into the food scene. And then also I want to talk about your stomach issues a little bit I know it's probably got hot topic for you. I actually just saw your Instagram and said that you had like excessive gas. I'm hoping that we got on here. great segue. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like just look at the colonoscopy video that you took a you know, a few months ago. But I yeah, food. You know, I actually was the pickiest eater as a kid and I was at skin and bones kid you can never put on any way, much to my sister's dismay, because she struggled obviously with having a really skinny mom and you know, was always just always felt the pressure to be thin. And I but I it kind of like it goes kind of back to my parents forcing me to try things and determining if I don't like something. And that's how it was with food. And then I realized oh, I actually like more things than I think I do. So I just grew in appreciation for restaurants, dining, traveling, meeting chefs from all walks of life. And that always was kind of just like a hobby. And when I started an editorial actually started in TV editorial, so I was doing TV reviews recaps, which obviously made sense coming from TV publicity, but when that job and did I got a job with food and wine magazine, and that exposed me to the food world. And the rest is kind of history. So I you know, I always say I'm a professional eater, not a professional chef, I don't have any formal culinary experience and I went into this book with that mindset and wrote it for someone like me that's amazing because that's how I am I you know, I always want to make like a really nice dish and I'm like, all these ingredients and all this stuff like I can't like I just can't but then I'm trying it with this and it seems maybe I mean you hit the spot really honestly. So I need to try some more stuff for sure. I've been just in the alcohol section. shocker. Trapped in there. So you're so you with with the food situation. So how do you do Try all these foods but then have a stomach issue because that to me, I've been having issues lately. Yeah. And like it's horrible. It's horrible, horrible. Yeah, you know, some things I literally just say fuck it, and I'm eating it. Because I just yeah, it's like I'm gonna be confined to my bedroom and literally just that's how my nights gonna go because I want a pint of ice cream and I'm not going out. But I mean, I know, I know my triggers are you and I've had some problems since I was in college. Actually high school high school I used to pull over driving to school and we'd have to use like the bathrooms of a Burger King or like a Perkins because I wouldn't be able to make it to school. So over and go to the restroom at these places. Yeah, but the gag of it all is that I would then buy something to eat right afterwards. Sounds like Well, I guess I need to try it again. Yeah, might as well. Except I would stop like anytime I had to go the bathroom. I'd be like where's the nearest like, I'd find like a holiday and I always want to drive is those lobby? lobby bathrooms? person? bathroom? Yep. That's like listen, I need to stop there. No, yeah. You like great. Jim. I do. I love food. I love eating now. I don't know what happened if I had like food insecurity as a child, but I just focus on food. I think about it all the time. When we travel. I'm like planning the restaurants. We're gonna go Yo, I like read all the menu. It's Yeah. Have you ever been to Montreal? Yes, I had been to Montreal. Yeah. We I thought the food scene there was amazing. Like, pleasantly surprised. Yeah, I forget. Actually the name of the place I went to a I'm going to butcher x I don't speak French but it was like op ed decal shop. It was it was like a ship me and they use every part of like the meat so it's like they had like they would wrap their sausages using like the intestines of a pig and it was like crazy. gastro like, I love that. Oh, almost like Brazilian like meat house. Kind of like a tourist. Oh, the Brazilian places like to stay busy. Oh, I don't know that. We know these can shave me like bridesmaids. They all got sir. I can't think of me like me like that. I always think of bridesmaids. I'm like, Oh man. I don't know if I can have this. ordered. Um, so what about Beyonce? Tell me about Beyonce. I've been reading your bio. Well, first of all, yeah, let's talk beyond saying I'm going to ask another question to follow what about her the fact that she is like the queen? What is what makes her the queen in your eyes? I don't know. I think as gays we all just Stan, you know a diva and you've got we've got our Brittany gays or Madonna gays that every every day very rare. Demi Lovato gay. But um, I know gay. Yeah. I think I am. Like, cool for the summer and I always want to whip my hair back and forth like but I don't have hair like I want to get a wig on and just swing it so maybe that's my queen. I didn't realize it till just now. I think I'm a Selena Gomez like disappear while the shoes. I saw her in concert here at the big stadium here called the shoe and it was like, I mean incredible. I just with Beyonce. She does it all like she sings she dances she acts she does it in six inch heels. And I'm sorry, there's a train that just passed on. Have you heard that? A city city? Yeah. Well, actually an Amtrak track not a station but if seems like a station because it's like just two lines that go directly beneath me. 24 seven. I'm in Hell's Kitchen. But it opened up like, directly beneath me. Yeah. But um, no Beyonce just and I like I black is king was just a surreal experience for me and her creative mind and every single bit of detail she put into that. I appreciate because I feel like my brain is wired the same way. Like I want every single moment outfit, whatever to matter, you know, and be visually compelling and that's just what I did. So it was beyond say porn for me for like two hours. It really is good. I can move on. I'm still in shock that on my Moto, okay. And I didn't know it. I'm a bad day. So I came out at like, you were late. later than you 28 Oh, wow. I mean, I was going on behind the scenes. I was having my phone and whatever. But I mean I it took me moving away from Atlanta to be like, Okay, well, I'm gay. And I tell my mom She goes, are you sure? And like, I'm like, yeah, mom like yeah, so I'm, I'm a late gay so I guess I'm just finding out my diva now. I like Brittany though too. Let's get on this but I think she's in a world of hurt. Yeah, I'm really out of that conservative. Bless, bless blessed Brittany, because while when you see her when you see her in these videos, sometimes I'm like, ooh, somebody needs some help. Like, I don't know what she's doing with these little like, in the, I don't know, it's just bizarre. It's just bizarre. I just think her like, prescription drug cocktail is off and she needs like a reevaluation. She needs Cymbalta for sure. I mean, some shots are gonna kick her they get up a shock. Maybe like a ketamine boost or something. Yeah, she needs to do something like that, honestly. Now, how did you exist as a gay person in Naples, Florida, because let me tell you when I go down there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like for you, but maybe I'm going to the wrong areas. It's a Yeah, conservative is an understatement. Oh, really? Oh, yes. Olden white and my grandpa's house there in the winter. Couple years. Okay, so I guess they make sense. Oh, yeah. I yeah, I barely survived. No, I mean, I just kind of lived in my own little bubble and did like, I just always made sure I was the best at what I wanted to do. So I was very active in the theater scene, obviously, the speech, you know, seeing and I kind of just stuck within that bubble. And I was like, if I'm just like, I used it almost as a distraction. I was like, I'm going to be so good at something, that you're not even going to have the time to really dwell on my sexuality or be interested in it, because you're going to be so impressed and focused on everything else they have going on in my life. Um, because yeah, I didn't I almost treated it that way. I didn't I distracted myself with talents, you know, or school work to really just not allow myself to have that conversation with myself about who I really was. And yeah, cuz I never even like had girlfriends in high school. I like, first, I was like, Oh, yeah, I'd have like pretend days, but it was like, really, we were like, King basically. Like, it wasn't even real date. It's like, yeah, like, yeah, let's sit at Starbucks. And I'll braid your hair after Yeah. Oh, I did that all the time. I was like, we're gonna go to movie and then Starbucks. And then yeah, I'm surprised you weren't busted earlier. Same. Um, so I, my question for you is what keeps you going? Because you seem like you have a lot of energy, you seem like you are very driven, obviously, from the start. What keeps you going, like, what makes you stay awake at night and want to, like, continue going, I guess, into the direction you're going? Yeah, you know, I just think I'm hardwired this way. I am a very type A OCD person. And I know people say that, like, I'm just, I'm always like, driven like I, you know, in addition to coming out of the womb in heels, I also the type of kid who would sit for hours and like color code, my Matchbox cars. And that was fun for me. So everything was always regimented and planned. And I just, I thrive off of routine and where I feel like I need to be so it's very easy for me to set a goal and work super, super hard to achieve it. Like, I knew I was gonna write a book I knew I was gonna publish a book did I think it was gonna be a cookbook? No, like die for a loop. But I always knew that I wouldn't make it work. It just I am impatient. So I didn't think it would take this long, necessarily, but I don't know I'm very good at just focusing, keeping my eye on the prize and seeing it through. That's amazing. And so did Corona. Really throw it off them? I mean, how did you better believe that? Oh, my God, because I'm such a control freak. I had none of what my book launch was supposed to look like I had a book tour with William Sonoma, I was gonna go to 10 cities, I had all this press lined up to do you know, a bunch of broadcasts and as a form of publicist seeing that all evaporate into thin air. I was like, I'm this great. Like, where am I supposed to do now? Like, I think a lot of people have that moment, especially with people whose careers are starting to, like, start to take off. I mean, your book just came out. I mean, your book was coming out all that like everything was headed that way. And so it's very interesting to see how people have handled it because I think it's given some people time to be quiet and like, that's a good thing. But also now I'm like, okay, it was cute for like the first like, three weeks or so but now like, I'm done, I'm so over it like, Yeah, and I mean Yeah I you just teaches you that you really have no control whatsoever. But I will say, putting out a book during a pandemic is very on brand for me, because yeah, my life is very high highs and low lows. So it's like oh, book deal by the way, Coronavirus, congrats. Well, hey, at least you're getting through it. You know what I mean? Like, good for you. If you can do it through all this shit, then you can do it when everything's hopefully back to whatever normal will be. What one at a time? What's the process of getting a book? Like how do you? Do you get a format? Like does someone send you something electronically? And then you fill it in? Or like how do you do a book? Yeah, I mean, most cookbooks kind of have a set format because it's you know, your intro, you can do some cute little sections in the beginning so with me a did a how to build a pantry and an essential kitchen tools. But I kind of broke it out the way I wanted to with, you know, apps means desserts, drinks. And then obviously, we needed like a brunch section. And, ya know, I kind of just tackled it as I worked through the recipe developer thing, God because my recipes were like, oh, a dash of cayenne here and maybe a sprinkle of salt here. She's like, we're gonna translate that into teaspoons and tablespoons. So that was, she took that off my hands, which was nice. But the writing it was really just I kind of wrote it in sections. And I treated it more as like an autobiography where I went into Facebook and social media. And I found these personal anecdotes that really resonated, whether it was getting a lot of likes or comments, and I was like, how do I apply this to food or, you know, in some way to make this book funny, but also like, with personal anecdotes scattered throughout. Like, I'm just looking at your book right now. I just think it's so great. Like, even like the pictures and art in it. Like I love it. Like, I can just look at the pictures and laugh like it's so funny. That's me and drag, but with a wig, her wig line girl, what's her name? What's her name? Oh, you're gonna die over this. Her name is Krista virtue. And I actually came up with that name in fourth grade. I know when I was a little kid. I was. I was very theatrical. And I had all these characters that I would perform, and they're based off people in my everyday life. And I was dressed up was the name of this like bitchy ask girl. And then I think I learned the word virtue in church. I just like combine the two. That's that's a that's a good drag name for sure. So what's your favorite recipe from the book? Do you have a favorite? I do I get asked that a lot. And I would definitely say the chocolate chip cookies. I know it's so basic, but everybody's always looking for an amazing chocolate chip cookie recipe. And these are like Big Daddy cookies. They're gooey. They're a little bit. I love a big daddy. They're very salty. So I love that like salt and sweet. And I love them and I love seeing everybody else making them and enjoying them so much. So I it's a it's a little sentimental. It's also my sister's recipe. So that's always cute. Yeah. It's the oh my god the best chocolate chip cookies ever. Is that it? Yeah. Because they are. They are we're gonna put it to the test. I think we should. Now how do we get the title of the book? Oh, well. Yeah, it's funny because I'm the type of person where I think of titles before writing. It's how I actually treat my articles as a as an editor. I sometimes will come up with a headline before writing the article itself. I don't know I always I like I'm really weird about that. I just I'm really good with ideas. Like if you want me to be part of a brainstorm, bitch, I can do it for hours. So when I came up with that idea, I was because I was thinking oh my god, there isn't like a simple, basic, you know, a cookbook for basic bitches that's on the market. And then I just thought of the pun, and my brain was like, oh my god that has to be taken. So I went and just googled basic bitch, and I'm like, it's literally nowhere. So my ass was like, godaddy.com Let's get all these handles. So that's just it was random. It was completely random. And I literally have a list of like 50 other ideas that I could tell you that I'm like, Oh, this would be a great book or you know, business ideas. Honey, it's the first day of fall. Why are you not wearing flannel and your pumpkin spice latte? Like I expected more out of you to be honest. This is mine. I'm like underdressed luck. Erica stall. So is there any what's what's the future hold for you? Um, well, I do love TV as we all know. So I would love like a little Food Network situation if we can come up with a format to make this work for TV. But see this only work? Yeah, TV, and it would, because you've got personality too. So I mean, even just looking at the book, like you can tell you're like, Oh, this guy's funny like this, that I appreciate where we've got a few ideas in mind that, and I did just host a series. Actually, I should mention that it's through awesomeness TV, but it's very Gen Z. So if you're like, not into tech talk, you may not give a shit. Oh, yeah, they're all Tick Tock stars, but we kind of sabotage them and make them cook things using only a photograph from the book. Yeah, that's cool. That's really fun. I'm gonna check that out. Now, what's that? It's on automated TVs YouTube. So this is a production company that actually does pin 15. So which I haven't watched? I heard everybody's talking about that. I guess a new season came out. Do you watch it? No, not season two. So good. It's so good. I've had it so good. So I'm like, I need to check this out. Yeah, being a 90s kid, and just all the references like there's an entire episode dedicated to AOL. And like messaging like an online boyfriend. Oh my god, I just I die. Oh, my God. Yeah. Well, remember when you have a need away message and you were like, eating dinner? It was like this big thing for parents in the room. Parents and room. Oh, I yeah. I mean, yeah. Are you gonna post it to the Dave? days? Oh, my God, Brian's dinner, like, what am I gonna do? And it's like, this is what for cell phones now. I mean, these kids, my nephews are getting cell phones, like, I mean, five, he doesn't have a cell phone, but you might as well use it. It's these days. We really appreciate you coming on, we just kind of wanted to get to know you a little bit better. And we're gonna definitely, we're gonna give away actually some of your books to some of our fans. So I try to think of some kind of podcast, because we have like a whole stack here. I bought a couple and your people sent me some so we're gonna do like a little contest and stuff. I don't really appreciate. Thank you so much for coming. I mean, thank you. Is there anything else you want to plug while you're at it? And then I'll just throw it in. My butt plug? Sure. We're finally finally now we're relaxed. Let's plug that in. Because it's been a fucking week. All these like stomach issues and the plugs like I don't know if you know what's bottoming like, what's coming issues. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Because, yeah, would you love those fucking people? Sorry, I'm just gonna go off for one second. Don't you love those fucking people who will literally come bottom and they're like, they're the ones are eating like late night pizza. And they're like, Oh, I just got my partner. Yeah, I don't. I don't get He's like, I've never had a problem. I'm like, you've never had to prep. He's like, No, you just know when you have to go. And then you're done. And then I'm like, Wait, what? But But yeah, an hour and a half for four minutes is like not worth the prep time for me. You know? No, preps never worth it never is and then, like five minutes before it's about to happen. You're like, Wait a second. Oh. Is everything okay? No, no, it's not. Oh, that's maybe the title of my autobiography? Is everything. Okay? Okay, no, back there. Oh, my God. Well, thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it. I could talk to you all day long. You're so funny. Yeah. Are you really gonna be a comedian is doing I saw that too. You're like, oh, Santa Santa comedy, but is that like, have you tried to tie into my bio, because everyone keeps saying that I just do it. I mean, I do have a routine that I wrote out but now that I read it, it's not PC so there's no way I could do it and these modern times that I was actually listening someone say that people were saying that who are so desensitized that like in order to even get the full laughs People will laugh at normal things, but to actually fully get people to like, be like, Oh my god, you got to get borderline. Gotta be like, yeah, you gotta say you've got to go there. It's hard. comedy is a definitely a hard line to walk for sure. I don't envy because you're out. You're done. Yep. Now canceled. canceled. Yeah, I don't want to be canceled just yet. Maybe in my 50s Yeah, exactly. That's when we're all canceled. We're Camaguey were canceled at 35. So Max, Max. canceled a year a year canceled canceled out. Anyway, thank you so much, Joey. Hey, guys, appreciate it. I'll get the links from your from Kristen. I think her name is I'll get all your links and stuff. We'll put it in the show and I think we're gonna release it. I'm not this week, but maybe next week, next Wednesday. So I'll make a little promos to if you want to help us post those. That'd be cool. Yeah, whatever I've been doing, I've been doing audio promotion and swipe ups. So whatever you need Okay, cool. Sounds good. I think you just cut out. I know it's been a little while. You're like, this is the first one. I'm not sure if any more so it's not a friend. Thank you. Yeah, I've never I believe podcast once and it did the same thing where everything was on a lag and i don't know i'm not i don't know if I'm the hugest fan. Either because I got this on, like, a phone call. I know. I don't know if zoom seems I hate zooms quality. But like it's consistently I don't know. Yeah. I know. I feel like someone. Well, it just depends who you're interviewing. If you're calling in zoom is like Yeah, yeah, it just depends. Okay. All right. Well, I'm don't mind froze, so I got to get more. 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