Masters Of Mayhem (Instagram, Polyamory, Sobriety, Sex, Trans Gay Men)

Unknown: 0:00

On this episode of She's Not Doing So Well we talk about uncomfortable Instagram postings, polyamory sobriety, sex, and why do we do it and trans men posting vagina pictures on gay message boards we also have the dog of the week which gets the highest rating we've ever given even though there's only been three Welcome She's Not Doing So Well Comedy podcast featuring Bobby I don't want to be viral I want to be inspirational and life changing because listen I'm at GE

Jim: 0:31

gym at the top What can I say? Finally he's just like you can unfollow me if you don't like my body the MS

The Miz: 0:38

oh my god Tell me all about your brain but you like it mushroom shaped pussy bitch

Unknown: 0:50

I haven't had a drink since Sunday. I'm sober for a week and a half

Jim: 0:54

I am sober for seven day slick Okay, I'm sorry last time I saw you had to rub your back in your bathroom for

The Miz: 1:01

the last time I saw you I was on FaceTime watching you badass naked puke into a toilet so I'm not sure that you're sober

Jim: 1:07

also true honestly. Like if you had seen the back view you would be sober to know I'm sorry I also sober now

Unknown: 1:14

I have to say oh, well a few things. I do have to say though,

Jim: 1:20

are you recording?

Unknown: 1:20

Yeah. That I do look good naked.

The Miz: 1:25

I don't know if you had to say that.

Unknown: 1:26

I did. And I don't go fuck because guess what? I'm beautiful. I am and I can't wait because we're going to like we're going to Seattle this week obviously. Yeah, there's a barracuda party that I guess it's like a big bear party that happens in different cities but this is like the last one of the year it's a circuit party probably

Jim: 1:42

so you get in thought

Unknown: 1:43

no, I'm gonna get fucking butt naked I'm gonna get my fucking jock and walk around I don't give a fuck.

Jim: 1:49

And as long as you don't friends there to give you better advice. As long as you don't

The Miz: 1:53

give a fuck

Unknown: 1:58

I'm glad to have support Thank you

Jim: 2:00

God your partner who has to give you unconditional support will be there Listen,

Unknown: 2:04

there's a lot to talk about. Great.

Jim: 2:06

Yeah Bobby that looks great.

The Miz: 2:09

That looks so good. You can barely see the big potato you ate earlier this week.

Unknown: 2:12

It's peeking out and by the way I just need to clarify that big potato though like it's actually not that bad for you because it's no it's not and Wendy's chili is only like four points on Weight Watchers. Okay, a big potato is only like five points on Weight Watchers.

Jim: 2:24

You need to yes but as our creams light asked the Irish like they know big potatoes

Unknown: 2:31

they know like hard potatoes

Jim: 2:32

they know all potato shuksan potato

The Miz: 2:36

Okay, I'm ready to start okay the next time I want to shed 50 pounds I'll just eat Wendy's big potatoes

Jim: 2:43

that might not I'm not actually a fan

Unknown: 2:48

all right hello everybody welcome to another episode of She's Not Doing So Well I'm Bobby I'm Jim I'm the MS We are so happy that you're here thank you very much actually I don't really care that you're here I'm happy that I'm here I care

Jim: 3:01

that you're here because we need fans to support our business model oh wait we have no sponsors and make no money off of this in fact we lose money

Unknown: 3:10

that is actually an accurate statement I lose my

Jim: 3:15

oh sorry that was that to mean

Unknown: 3:18

no but why is Ms looking oh he must have

Jim: 3:21

he's sorry he's like what is the stock rating of She's Not Doing So Well wait they're not listed you can have both today clear

Unknown: 3:32

so anyway, let's sorry about last week I'm not sorry but I'm sorry but I'm not Yeah, I wouldn't be I mean it was a fun time I hope you enjoyed it I drink sense hyper free that way sorry. Really?

Jim: 3:44

Yeah. Because you're like a little less chatty. Give us more

The Miz: 3:49

you like actually made me laugh last week

Unknown: 3:53

okay, gay I mean it's fine You guys are already started ripping on me already so and I'm already sweating because it's hot in here because the spotlights on me

Jim: 4:01

now what I do recall that we had a coup and Ms is the leader of the show I don't know really why you started with the introduction true. Okay.

The Miz: 4:13

If I were the leader the podcast we would have been recording we would have been recording 35 fucking minutes ago

Unknown: 4:19

I love how you're the pillar of good behavior and on time accurate accuracy until

Jim: 4:25

you're running into a wall you're just the pillar of the good behavior.

Unknown: 4:30

I remember when you got home at what time you don't even know you don't even know with

Jim: 4:33

a broken ankle and leg yeah like I don't even looking like Dracula I will post we all have our weaknesses. I love that photo. It's like photo scares looks like you're Jesus you came out of the grave Three days later you're like fuck

The Miz: 4:48

God actually was wondering why do we always need to introduce ourselves like people?

Unknown: 4:53

Well, because you got to understand that there's new listeners every day. So like there are know who you are

Jim: 4:59

this path. Last week I went on vacation I got like five new listeners Welcome to our new listeners we love you Bobby doesn't

The Miz: 5:06

hear hearing three people say their name so they know who we are.

Jim: 5:10

Okay

Unknown: 5:13

all right Hello We're just here we're nobodies and we're just gonna talk to you and you don't know who we are there I'm a voice

The Miz: 5:21

despite your introduction some hate now guys still fuck the two of you up.

Jim: 5:25

That's true. It's like Jim was talking about reality.

The Miz: 5:28

So how effective are they even if you

Unknown: 5:31

really want to be a part of the show? You'll understand who everyone is like everyone knows who you are true.

The Miz: 5:36

I don't think that's the introductions though.

Unknown: 5:39

Oh my God, we saw everybody saying he hates

Jim: 5:42

us. It's fine. It's been this way for a year and a half so

Unknown: 5:46

you know what though? It makes the world turn it makes it makes the show guys the world turns so I have really good news.

Jim: 5:54

Did you lose a pound? Well literally just like how good is it?

The Miz: 6:02

Yeah, he's been he's been eating big potatoes. So he's basically Jenny fucking crier. Yeah.

Unknown: 6:08

Listen, Jenny Craig doesn't work. No fat

The Miz: 6:13

potato diet

Unknown: 6:15

how do you know what I'm well? I showed you my my liver disease and morbidly obese over 40 that's just based on my height my weight they're like they haven't weighed BMI isn't even I'm probably like 39 though. I'm not lying like

Jim: 6:32

Yeah. Oh fuck off. No, you are I believe you are because I'm literally borderline obese at myself. You're kind of obese

Unknown: 6:39

already.

Jim: 6:43

Well, there's

Unknown: 6:44

one skinny one.

The Miz: 6:48

Now I think my BMI would put me at at least overweight

Unknown: 6:53

title overweight like my after the doctor segment was like it's like liver disease anxiety libido problems. Fat as fuck is basically what it says to me. But it's oh yes morbidly obese. It's like morbidly like you're beyond gone. You are morbidly obese and my favorite parts when it looks at my bloodwork, he's like oh yeah you're broke is pretty good right? It's like like are you surprised like He's surprised Oh no,

Jim: 7:18

yeah, because most of these people are very unhealthy but you can be obese and relatively elaborate like

Unknown: 7:23

this is just my size I've been the same Yeah, it is for 10 years it's just your size. I don't think you're supposed actually 10 pounds lighter than the last ones of the doctor which was a year ago in December or December What was your rating? Still morbidly obese? Probably the highest one Yeah, I think that's so it's like 40s like you're done yeah

Jim: 7:43

once you're like super obese and if you're you have other conditions and it's considered morbid obesity. So it'll be

The Miz: 7:53

at the very end still beautiful.

Unknown: 7:57

Thank you. I know a little bit of

Jim: 7:59

nice

Unknown: 8:00

and beautiful he's like he has anxiety Hey can't fuck anything and he's like oh my god they come here to get attacked right like I thought you're being nice Randall but I do have some good news right on the Prozac from okay I got a little libido back like no lie Yeah, wow. Like I'm talking like

The Miz: 8:24

what the big potato? I started to touch it and

Unknown: 8:27

then I let it fuck me. No, it was like I mean you

The Miz: 8:30

did send us a picture of you deep during a pickle to that

Unknown: 8:34

someone that's true. It's also somehow you said clinically crazies eat pickles or you said something and I'm like oh no, I

Jim: 8:41

that's not like a real thing that's just my observation is that people who eat pickles are generally insane like if they just you know when you walk in and you buy a pickle from like a gas station or a fucking grocery store convenience store there's something wrong with you it's no one wants a pickle out of a plastic bag. Yours was eaten with like sandwiches at the maximum or fried and dipped in I had a sandwich you're not yeah but you were just eating a big giant pickle all by itself.

Unknown: 9:07

I feel like every day I'm just gonna send you a picture what I'm eating and just gross you guys the fuck out we're like

Jim: 9:11

milk and peanut butter sure fuck me up pick it out it's your diet Hello you're always too low we told you this last week

The Miz: 9:21

we didn't know about

Unknown: 9:23

it last week close shoe bad okay so anyway yeah I had a moment though where it was like intense like I haven't no fat like sorry mom but I haven't been that hard in forever oh you came sorry Jocelyn.

Jim: 9:37

Oh yeah, like hard like you shot like above your head.

Unknown: 9:40

Oh, it was everywhere. And I was like all about I couldn't get enough of what was

Jim: 9:44

happening. That's I don't actually like a big shot. But anyways, yeah.

Unknown: 9:49

It wasn't like a big shout out. I'm like, oh, but I'm just saying like,

Jim: 9:51

hey that's Bobby when he comes

Unknown: 10:01

Well and on this so anyway I'm like

Jim: 10:03

pretty uncommon again but like how horny Are you is often or is it just like one so this past

Unknown: 10:08

weekend i was like i jacked off and I had help had help oh yeah

Jim: 10:15

like a little handy or

Unknown: 10:17

some help now both if you don't mind I now

Jim: 10:21

I did that yesterday to my wanted you know I'm saying that's weird

Unknown: 10:26

I know

Jim: 10:27

so I don't know if that's good but good for you I

Unknown: 10:29

think it's good Why would it not be good? I mean you're doing fine before was I dead inside I know you liked me dad but I'm alive now honey you

Jim: 10:38

didn't seem dead you seemed like actually less anxious less Rayji

Unknown: 10:42

I know how to write j last No I do feel like I'm a little bit more alive and I do feel like I have a little more emotion I've cried like three times.

The Miz: 10:53

Oh wonderful. sounds completely

Jim: 10:56

stable and good for you. No I'm like so happy by the sabi nonstop and I'm more sweaty than normal I am sweating more than you're very sweaty I think it's the Prozac

Unknown: 11:05

or I'm thinking maybe I came right home from work took a huge shift and sat down in a hot ass room to record because I'm concerned about my co workers in this situation getting mad sorry

The Miz: 11:16

Ronnie that

Jim: 11:19

we've been mad we done been mad so

Unknown: 11:21

anyway this week I think we're starting with

Jim: 11:26

jam pull down your pants and get out your cock your your jerk

Unknown: 11:42

here's the thing I had to literally take

The Miz: 11:44

survived like after the first play

Unknown: 11:49

once we get done recording here I'm gonna have him record again like I took it from a episode there he is saying that RAM and he's like yeah again and like so I had to like cut it up and it's like chopped up together. It's actually pretty impressive. It's not how I got if you

The Miz: 12:04

knew right sounds right sounds very chopped up.

Unknown: 12:08

If that's the only way I could do it. That's fine jam here okay, because we're all listening. We're all aware.

Jim: 12:14

No one's aware and no one's actually listening so we're not live and you guys are chatting about chopping up a song But anyways, here we are jerking with Jim Okay, so the thing I need to bring up and I'm just kind of like in a little bit of a pickle if you will. Cuz I'm a psychopath like Bobby I went on vacation this past week it was last minute it was very fun I was a co workers of course I'm on the Igy I'm posting posting posting posting posting posting you don't ever post on the screen though but i do i just don't do anything fun you just send like private stories.

The Miz: 12:54

Well okay yeah I post close friends

Unknown: 12:57

right never post

Jim: 12:58

right and so and that's a good point because that's what came up after the trip. Basically we got back and some of the other co workers who weren't invited on the trip or couldn't go for whatever reason were like making comments everyone like oh wow look like the trip was interesting. And you know me I don't give a fuck so I'm like, Uh huh, it was really fun What

The Miz: 13:18

do they mean by interesting Yeah, what

Jim: 13:20

do you mean interesting

The Miz: 13:21

butthurt because you're

Unknown: 13:23

right exactly that's exactly what it is. But so some of

The Miz: 13:27

your time stuck here at home look very interesting. You don't know when the fuck is it?

Jim: 13:33

Okay, but so some of the people who went on the trip were like okay new rule we're never posting anything again and by the way no one else on the trip was really posting anything it was basically there I would like take a picture of people like having a drink in the pool wondering not like a bunch of bottles not anything No

Unknown: 13:49

but your your stories were boring as fuck it was like a steak or even though you don't need to say steaks

The Miz: 13:57

to say in contrast to what does unidentified person said it did not look interesting.

Jim: 14:03

I agree. It was not crazy. Nothing I posted was it look very normal very average. You would look at twice

Unknown: 14:11

it's like you're going to like spring break 2020 wet tips were all over your offseason beach trip

The Miz: 14:20

to beach in October. Oh my god I'm fascinated. Mutt looks

Unknown: 14:23

very interesting huh? But basically what do you know the rule and they were like how do you know

The Miz: 14:29

and why do they Why did that rule come about like why

Jim: 14:33

right for Okay, so when do you want to have them one of the people on the trip was like okay, well some of us are in leadership positions and so people look at us differently and so we have a higher standard right? Are you are

The Miz: 14:45

you are you are not allowed to go on vacation? No, cuz you're in a leadership position.

Jim: 14:51

And so I'm feeling like backhanded scolded almost for being like the one posting but I also am like, sorry, like, I didn't think it was Big deal because it's not a quote I even explained to go well so everyone on Instagram that follows me I have a private account so you have to and first of all my story is close friends only okay so one of the people on the trip was like well anyone could just screenshot your story and then share it with other people and I said well, I think it would be like alert me and I don't even think who would screenshot and I said Finally I just said What did we what picture what post Are you talking about that you are worried about? Tell me the post the exact post

The Miz: 15:28

like people think like the Who the fuck is going to screenshot your close friend story and publicly share it? What is it like who who would get content out about like oh let me take this completely mediocre group of people and screenshot their close friend story and post it on my page because everyone gives a rat's ass about it like what? Who like no I mean yeah, I'm actually gonna sell it to Page Six because everyone fucking cares about you that much like what what the hell are you talking about?

Unknown: 16:05

That's actually the question I'm having too is like what makes you think you're so special that somebody even gives a fuck about what you do a but be like it's kind of like Miss has always said you can't cancel somebody if they're not anybody if you don't have a family and like who's gonna be worried about right also lock your goddamn Instagram then if you're so fucking concerned I period and that's what I do it's what I'm saying. Yeah, like also you don't ever send anything to says close friends every time Oh, like I never post publicly right it's almost like I don't even know why you have it now but

The Miz: 16:35

like it's it's transcended that they're literally concerned that someone is going to screenshot it and post it on their own page

Unknown: 16:43

and there's a lot of insecurity involved like I gotta realize you were up for the guardian and even if you are apparently even if you're not out yeah you're on course you're not gonna ever do anything in your life

Jim: 16:54

that's what I was like I'm looking back I'm like okay, we

Unknown: 16:58

like doing cocaine off the fucking Dell No,

Jim: 17:00

I wouldn't know.

Unknown: 17:02

I would get a picture of that. I would have said no, you wouldn't get a picture of that.

Jim: 17:06

I'd probably get a second hand high from giving a blowjob to the stripper but I'm just that was really extreme obvious Oh, okay. I was like I would never ever would you do cocaine off of the river? No,

Unknown: 17:19

no, no, I can't have an upper you don't I mean

Jim: 17:23

yeah, you already have Prozac, but I just don't

The Miz: 17:27

I did cocaine in the back of an Uber like, like three weeks ago

Jim: 17:35

I wonder how that happened. How did you lose the fight? Yeah,

Unknown: 17:37

I found out the story three weeks after the fact when he's like we're not fighting anymore so I can tell you now he told me right after it I know and he said that you did not tell me that I

Jim: 17:50

shot I don't tell a lot of things that people tell me. You're just surprised well you are the destructor or whatever the fucking dis ruptor I think it's disruptive no because I disrupt and let people destroy themselves true Okay, so I'm not destroying the stir of the ship pot I just disrupt and bring something new into the situation so yeah, so I just like I don't know I

The Miz: 18:16

think the conclusion here is whoever having these thoughts is a little video I just have absolutely no respect for them

Unknown: 18:26

you can have both today clear. I mean, honestly,

Jim: 18:31

I just

The Miz: 18:34

that's like the equivalent me walking around Los Angeles and being like, Oh my god, what if the popper otzi come out? And sounded like that's literally the same thing.

Unknown: 18:45

Oh my god, I could not have thought of any more

Jim: 18:47

perfect now that's like no one's following you. answer that.

Unknown: 18:51

I feel that when I'm in LA I walk around like the pop rock to like show like oh, I'm leaving. Hello? I'm leaving.

Jim: 19:00

Like Yeah, can you get out of our like, Who's

Unknown: 19:02

this fat guy from loss? I

Jim: 19:03

thought he died. Literally blocking the entire view of my lens. Yeah, and you're 40 feet away.

Unknown: 19:10

They're like Brittany's behind you. I'm like where I can't see her cuz she's literally behind me and I can't see Rihanna

Jim: 19:15

naked. That's something else we need to talk about nudity, nudity? What else you wanna talk

Unknown: 19:21

about go ahead bring it up Why wait put a bow on that so the bow on that

Jim: 19:28

people get worried and I just

Unknown: 19:30

literally you're about mine is like maybe we need to chill the fuck out and and like understand that people are people and just because you have a career that might be something public or important doesn't mean that you can't live a normal life like go on vacation say what the fuck you want to say it's called a free We will live in this country that's quote unquote free. Why the fuck are we so concerned about what anybody thinks like you're not doing stuff that's illegal. You're literally sitting on the goddamn beach drinking a fucking Corona.

Jim: 19:54

That's how I kind of basically told them I was like, well, I'll be more careful. I won't post anything. If you don't want Me too when I'm around you but I am going to post me doing things and what I'm doing because I don't give a fuck

The Miz: 20:06

right? If you don't want to be in my story then fine you can read my story I don't give a shit no wants your ugly ass anyway Fuck off.

Unknown: 20:12

This is just me from history. It's good to be friends with your co workers, but it's also like I would never probably go on a vacation with them because I feel like that's very Yeah, that's very like different when you're on vacation. It was everybody's mode. I'm sure it was great. I'm sure it was and I'm sure it's a really good time, but it seems like to me if it's going to be that stressful for whomever maybe they need to go on the trip.

Jim: 20:32

Yeah, I think I don't know. I just don't know.

The Miz: 20:36

Right? If you don't want to be if you don't want anyone to perceive you as going on this trip, then don't go on the fucking

Unknown: 20:41

trip. Go by yourself and don't post anything and just sit and do whatever the fuck you want to do.

Jim: 20:45

And the other thing is if you see other people who you know going on a trip, don't shame them. And don't try to make them feel guilty for going without you. Right? That's cool. That's the other thing is where people are like, Oh, that's interesting. Wow, you just went there. Wow, with all those people. Like, okay, yeah, it's

Unknown: 21:00

called an airplane. It's 2021. Like we

Jim: 21:03

were vaccinated,

The Miz: 21:04

take that as a tip. So get cooler. Yeah. And we'll invite you. Like, if you weren't such a piece of shit, that's exactly

Jim: 21:12

what it is for that person. Right? They're just jealous. I think those areas saying that are jealous. And it's like, Okay, well,

Unknown: 21:19

and they want the scoop like how'd you get when you guys plan this? Because nobody like that by me. They were asking me that.

The Miz: 21:24

I'll be playing it and months and months in advance, and we narrowed you right out of the

Unknown: 21:27

guest. Jennifer, you have four kids that are in fucking elementary school and you're divorcing her husband. We're not inviting him to the Florida trap of hate.

Jim: 21:33

That's I mean, half the people are literally impossible to bring on a trip because they're constantly doing too much shit with their families. You can't even get them to have a happy hour drink on a Friday night let alone a four to five day trip it's impossible

The Miz: 21:48

to talk them com

Unknown: 21:50

everyone's a fucking idea. Everyone everyone in the world is a fucking idiot like including myself ever right? Clearly Yeah, like I still don't I mean decisions for myself very well.

The Miz: 22:00

Yeah, like everyone's idea no one smart route a sick fucking animal. Well, it's

Unknown: 22:04

kind of it is because if you really look at like what's happening, I mean the whole Facebook thing right now like all that shit. It's crazy. It is fucking crazy though. How

The Miz: 22:12

we're being.

Unknown: 22:13

It's like who's in charge here? No one

The Miz: 22:16

who's in charge?

Jim: 22:17

Hi gay. Okay, okay.

Unknown: 22:19

nudity. You were like I think we said britney spears and you're like nudity nude. Okay, you want to talk about nudity?

Jim: 22:27

for a second? Well I do but like I'm trying to frame it because I also have showing nudity on my phone to a degree

Unknown: 22:35

we can talk about dick pics like what your thought is on just oh well I mean it's an accident and if there was an

Jim: 22:41

accident he said like don't worry about I was like like I'm really embarrassed it wasn't mine thank God but it was a deck. I mean it's fine I don't even remember whose it is. That's bad. I know but I like screenshot of it and then it saved into that zone of the pictures and I was like here we are in the condo. And then I'm like no I was masturbating that yes I literally was like I don't recognize this and I looked and I was like that's a hard deck. Okay, she just kept swiping and they were like

Unknown: 23:07

I mean they know you're the little faggot round around so they know that you're gonna have pics on your phone you know the

Jim: 23:12

one like literally six year old woman was like well they've seen my phone too. I apparently she's done that too. I love her she's like it's okay don't even think twice about it. She's and someone was like oh why do you have that on your phone? I said because I'm a hoe think that's I'm like I said that in front of like eight people I'm really proud of you fucking oh

Unknown: 23:31

well I'm just proud of you for being yourself at work

Jim: 23:33

I am I myself at work now and I think they all love it right? I'm basically cuz everybody likes identity. They know I'm a slot and I don't care. I'm just like, I've told all of them I'm poly. They love it.

Unknown: 23:45

Have you told us that your poly

The Miz: 23:47

poly?

Jim: 23:48

I thought I told you guys well you already know

Unknown: 23:51

I know you're open I don't know your policy trying to find another boyfriend for the are you adding a boyfriend for the three of you like you're gonna three of you in the house? No, no, that's like a couple that's a lot but you're polyamorous which means you're totally amorous relationship.

Jim: 24:05

Okay, so you can have your own boyfriend on

Unknown: 24:07

the side.

Jim: 24:08

So here are the options for relationship

Unknown: 24:11

Oh boy.

Jim: 24:12

You can you can put this in I don't care so should I talk about it now make

The Miz: 24:15

your gun yeah talking about oh fuck it

Jim: 24:19

so I'll try to explain to the best I know how and you know this is just what I know I know there's people who know more and it's I've explained something wrong sorry I'm not representing a community but I think of it as like fuck you guys suck but there's like oh well

Unknown: 24:35

your fucking eyes at me excited crickets

The Miz: 24:38

No, I was rolling your Oh I thought you're wrong

Unknown: 24:41

Matt me Okay, the

Jim: 24:42

coup is reinstated. Um

The Miz: 24:45

Bobby, you will not speak unless spoken to. From now on.

Jim: 24:49

Yeah, it's like squid game and you're one of the guys with a circle on your head for duct tape that

The Miz: 24:53

fat mouth shot and don't speak ever again.

Jim: 24:57

Okay, so relationship styles, I think One of the big differences is monogamy and then non monogamy right? Okay so monogamy you're only having sex with one person your whole life correct once you're in a relationship you're only ever having sex with them and then there's ethical non monogamy which I am cheating is not ethical so cheating is not ethical non monogamy that's just

Unknown: 25:21

but having a mutual agreement and your relation yeah exactly communicating about it can

Jim: 25:26

open up other avenues we've all experienced other avenues and I love how it's like not interest he's like first of all I have to have a relationship

Unknown: 25:37

he's like Avenue. I hate the

Jim: 25:39

avenues I like the streets better. So ethical non monogamy is like an umbrella term and underneath that you have things like open relationships, swingers, throttles, quadruples, whatever the fuck that is drupes quadriceps. And then like, but another term is polyamory, which just means like, you can have multiple relationships, and they can be their sexual or romantic so some of them you're just like connecting with a person not having sex with them, like a friend, like a friend, right? More than a friend but like you have a relationship that you've kind of have your own rules about but

Unknown: 26:14

so you're stating that you are you say you're poly?

Jim: 26:18

Yeah, so where I realize we're poly because we're because Pete The reason this came up is because someone at work was like sorry, you guys swingers and I'm like, no, we're not fucking swingers. Like, I don't go to a swinger party you would with my partner. And then like, I mean, I might but but that doesn't make make me a swinger. Because we're not just doing that, right. We're not No, we're literally not swinging I've never been so what we're doing now is not swinging. Okay, so

The Miz: 26:41

what are you doing now?

Jim: 26:42

So what we're doing now we're having both romantic and sexual relationships with people outside of our own relationship.

The Miz: 26:49

So you're you are actively having another romantic relations? Yeah, no. Yes. Like currently

Unknown: 26:54

you have another like two.

Jim: 26:56

Yeah. And so wait, so

Unknown: 26:58

you have three total?

Jim: 27:00

Yeah,

The Miz: 27:01

I'm not shocked by the concept. I just,

Unknown: 27:03

like your attitude towards because you're acting like we're stupid. No, I don't think you're stupid. Well, no, I'm saying You're acting like you're like yeah, I'm like, Yeah, but

Jim: 27:11

these are names that you've heard. And you know, yeah, I know who your boyfriends are. So you already knew

The Miz: 27:16

we never knew him in this context. I mean, I didn't know that they were your boyfriends. Yeah,

Jim: 27:22

like I'm trying to do more than just have sex with someone so okay. And then sometime okay. I'm trying I know okay. Look into the group now seriously, you hate the trans? Like what is poly it should be marriage only. And so and a woman well, but also like my partner and I, my my anchor partner who you know, I was at the term Yeah, like that's the one I mean, that's your partner for life. Yeah, like we're not we're not ever going anywhere. We have our life together. We have our house together plans for the future, all the rest. Is he also doing this so he more I don't think he really wants to I don't think he has time or cares to cry, but he gets involved with me and other people sometimes. Okay, and so like, one of his friends came over the other weekend and we I basically initiated a threesome I was dropped her baby like we went to dinner and then we came back and I was like, just kind of like bent over and a jockstrap and looked back and was like, hey, and so then he came into literally laughing so hard. No, no, he was turned on immediately. It was excellent. I just

The Miz: 28:37

I can't say

Jim: 28:40

yeah, but it's not like that, like you ever done to me. I was like, literally probably. Yeah, but that's because we're friends. I wouldn't try that with you. Like this guy was

Unknown: 28:46

trying to fucking date me.

The Miz: 28:48

cuz I've just told her various indicators

Jim: 28:51

first of all the BMI limit. You can have both today queer. Anyways, I don't actually have a BMI limit. What was that? like? I like that. But yeah, anyway, so then sometimes Yeah, sometimes my part my anchor partner gets involved sometimes we have three sons with one of my other boyfriends and then that's that I'm proud

Unknown: 29:19

of you. So you're a but also are you non binary too? Well, that's separate because this is related to no I know I'm just saying I'm trying to like linen and and and and no,

The Miz: 29:29

I think we've discussed what the due process is in order to initiate a separate let's go

Jim: 29:34

are the three things there is no, there is gender, their sexuality and there's relationship structure.

Unknown: 29:41

for you as a personal Yeah. Trying to find you. I'm trying to figure out where you're going. like who are you the

The Miz: 29:48

shock in this whole thing is the matter of fact, Corona. And now St. Pauli, like as if we knew

Unknown: 29:54

Yeah, you're like, well, we you know, my boyfriend. Honestly could be like four of them. I don't know. exactly which ones they are and they might be

Jim: 30:02

but no The reason I Matter of fact is because it like finally settled in and I realized Do your parents know I was no I haven't told them okay they be it I mean it doesn't really matter they know I wouldn't care I

Unknown: 30:14

would you not want to introduce well okay here's a question Are your new partners or whatever the are the will they ever meet your parents or is that something that you would ever

Jim: 30:22

they're not at that stage yet like it's only been less than a year and I didn't really even bring that until like well over a year until I was definitely like settled with him like okay, I'm dating we're dating but these people I've only I mean I've literally been hanging out with one for just once you move into your house six months June so it's just it's not been that long with some of them but like Yeah, I'd be fine with that. Like my sister knows about it she loves it she doesn't care

The Miz: 30:46

My other question is what are you to them right?

Jim: 30:53

So

Unknown: 30:54

he's anchored all of them he's the anchor Jaime?

The Miz: 30:57

Are you like their actual like good daddy like this is my like guy

Jim: 31:02

I think it could get there this is Yeah, I don't think we're there yet that's

Unknown: 31:06

scary because it matter No, I

Jim: 31:09

don't I don't need them to be exclusive with me but

Unknown: 31:12

but they're okay with the fact that you have an anchor partner Yeah, so they know what then they then they know what oh yeah

Jim: 31:17

they know Yeah Really? Like lying about like oh hey I'm single I want to date you they know the whole situation

Unknown: 31:23

imagine you had to go home to everybody's house though and act like you were the only one

Jim: 31:27

if I didn't tell him and I'm like okay Hon, I'll be home in a minute actually a comedy that's back in comedy gold that's a comedy wrong having like four wives Yeah. Hey, hey,

Unknown: 31:37

we're Pauline you have to like act um, I

Jim: 31:39

gotta be funny. I would love it you change your it's like the ending and Mrs. Doubtfire kinda Yeah.

Unknown: 31:44

Or

The Miz: 31:45

I love it. It just sounds exhausting but I like it for you because I think you have the exhausting person that

Jim: 31:51

right it's not for everyone I totally understand I think most people do find monogamy but I think Bobby has done some ethical non monogamy as well. You guys have brought partners in before

Unknown: 32:02

yeah so our that's good but when you so as far as we had like a jackoff in Vegas like does that count? Yeah, I'm saying it

The Miz: 32:09

does jack off of anything

Jim: 32:12

right? Why? But it is not around jacking

The Miz: 32:15

off with some but it's hot

Jim: 32:17

but if you come like if you're having

The Miz: 32:19

a hot I just don't think it like crosses a threshold.

Jim: 32:22

It's a form of sex like if you ask the wife of a who has a husband jacking off with other guys she thinks of it as sex like it's not like oh my husband had to jack off with his work friend

The Miz: 32:33

I guess it sounds more severe and straight contact true

Jim: 32:37

But yeah, I think I think gay guys do it all the time and it's not we just don't think of it as a big deal.

Unknown: 32:41

I just couldn't go to relationship mode though I do like well that's a different city

Jim: 32:46

that's what I'm saying is ethical non monogamy is an umbrella term and you can have sexual non monogamy where you just might have sex with someone else but you don't like form a relationship right? You're not like getting invested in their lives trying to learn more about them you're

The Miz: 32:58

just like that to me

Unknown: 33:00

yeah that's a type of monogamy that I'm not a sex person that like I'm not gonna go out and just have sex ed the first night saying I might blow you I don't I might give you like a handy

Jim: 33:09

yeah either. I literally have other people like everyone I'm like let's just wait and see like why don't we hang out again and then see how it is?

Unknown: 33:18

No like the guy I just like oh, I just want to do what I want to do but I don't want to like fuck you and I don't want you to make some readings I talked about do you want to do like you jerk off of them? Or what do you mean like I don't go into like when I'm if I was bringing something home to fuck them. I would never be fucking that

The Miz: 33:34

I would never be bringing someone home if I was to bring

Jim: 33:36

them home then to have like,

Unknown: 33:38

oral and in hand. Oh, that's the type of sex but I know but I'm saying I'm actually talking like penetration.

Jim: 33:44

Oh, I mean, like I don't do any form of sex on usually the first day it's like that's we don't need to do that. But that's everyone's different. Everyone has different comforts about it. They're like I would like you're more not gonna do emotional ever romantic ever. The

Unknown: 33:58

minute gets emotional. You see how I am true. I mean, and I know Ms can relate to like how I feel.

Jim: 34:07

So he apparently he can't but well I'm happy for you, Jim. Thanks, guys. Yeah, I think it's also I'm much happier to now that no, there's a name for it because I've been doing it for months and months. And I'm like, right? Is this normal? Is this and then I found like, Oh, yeah, no, tons of people are doing this. Right. And like my partner asked his therapist and was like, you know, does anyone else do this? And she was like, Yeah, I have probably many, many many queer couples who are doing this.

Unknown: 34:33

I am not saying that though. Honestly, the world needs to go towards it is more free. Yeah. In a free world and open and like, why are we so jealous I

The Miz: 34:41

can ask you another question. jealousy. Well, will this change upon marriage? No, no. Okay.

Jim: 34:49

Not for me. I don't know maybe some other people are like, and then once we finally decide to get married, we're done doing all this, but I know it won't. For me. I just think and the more I explain it to a lot of straight people like people I work with they seem completely fine with it. But jealousy does get brought up a lot like that's the number one thing is people like I couldn't do that I'd get I'd be too jealous and I'm like well trust me we get jealous too It's not like jealousy doesn't exist for us, but we just talk through it like what are you worried about? So you think I'm gonna leave you for this other person? You think like if I have sex with this person I'm gonna find them more hot than you and then you're just trying to emotional like I don't know yeah yeah. I mean it's like the edge find out what you're worried about and then like me it's being left being left that's the number one thing that's what my partner says. And by that I mean like abandoning everything that we and I

Unknown: 35:36

and then you're leaving especially your dad my divorce my parents divorced 25 it's still like fresh I mean, for me it's like how can you guys build a life for 20 years have two kids and and and just be like, and you can just go cheat? I mean, it's just like crazy to me. You know what I'm saying? Right? Like so then I say here anything Oh my God, this could happen to me

The Miz: 35:53

right? But if you're in a polyamorous relationship you're like having upfront communication right?

Jim: 36:00

Right That's the key right? I parent we prevent it by like talking about, okay, tonight I'm going on a date with blah, blah, blah. I will be home Around this time, and I'll be in the bed with you. Or if I'm gonna stay over I'm like, Okay, well, I'm gonna stay there. And then we have plans tomorrow, and you just make it clear like what's going on? You're like, you have to like yeah, be upfront about it. because trust me the jealousy and the concerns are still there. I'm sure they don't go anywhere. It's got to get more complicated, but you still just talk through it. Like almost overkill. Yeah,

Unknown: 36:30

the communication have to

Jim: 36:31

be like, Hey, are you worried about that? If I'd go on a date right now like or did you have plans that day are you worried about and he's like, why? Oh, and then when he gets quiet I can tell him like are you worried that I'm gonna leave you

Unknown: 36:43

that's a really valid question that's a really valid something that somebody needs to say to their partner like I'm not leaving you. I just don't want your penis tonight

Jim: 36:51

right like sometimes you know I really find this other person hot and I really like being around them I might just go hang out with them I'm not abandoning you but you didn't you had other plans or you're working or you didn't seem to care about this night particularly so I'm going to go make plans Is that okay? And if it's okay then you do it

Unknown: 37:08

I like this Jim thank you so much for oh wow oh wow I just Oh, that was the that's your song You are now listening to rate my dick the weekly segment where we look at your dick and give you a rating that simple. You think you got what it takes? Email us said She's Not Doing So well@gmail.com now sit back and relax and listen to us talk about dig. That's right. Dick so we have a pic of the week and the problem is I have like scientifically I can't okay, but I don't there's only one that I have a have a like waiver

Jim: 37:55

from then we'll do that. But you have better ones that are not waiver.

Unknown: 38:00

Which ones do you think we could just do? That's I'm saying but I wouldn't be able to show Okay, that's fine.

Jim: 38:05

We want to show it Yeah,

Unknown: 38:06

well Okay, so here's a here's how sorry, here's a newsflash or update so Patreon doesn't let you put up penises that are erect or that so it can only be nudity on Patreon is only like art so I'm like so does an erection isn't erection I can't either so private website right so anyway so let me do it so I decided fuck it I'm just gonna go put it on our discord so that's what I started doing yeah yeah to try to like so people can play along yeah when I logged in I was like oh shit yeah, like I want to play a law honestly that my fuck Okay, so I like oh my god, I have so many hot guys. Like show to this week.

Jim: 38:44

I quit quick. Like this is like the highlight of my week. Is that sad?

Unknown: 38:49

Okay, so here's our pick of the week.

The Miz: 38:52

Or like I'm whoa Yeah, okay, can you do this on your trackpad? Do you attract?

Jim: 38:57

Yeah, um, wait, so Wow, okay. Okay, so this is the so that's okay. And it's a little pointy there that this is so far so far so ripped.

Unknown: 39:09

So far so good.

Jim: 39:10

Wow. Oh, thank god Yep, yeah. Wow. Oh yeah. That's a boyfriend. Boyfriend day.

Unknown: 39:21

So I think he might be Italian

Jim: 39:24

like it's just the perfect it's not it's good to shore. It looks like it's really hard. It's not Yeah, it looks very firm.

Unknown: 39:31

But look behind me him

Jim: 39:35

alone. This is much this is higher than a seven for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

Unknown: 39:39

this is done yeah, I want to gag on that. Yeah, you can too.

Jim: 39:42

Yeah, that would be a that's gonna touch a little dangly thing in the back of my throat

Unknown: 39:46

so you're gonna die when you find out who this is. And I'm not going to tell you I don't want to tell you because you're so totally like, hold a tap What do you

The Miz: 39:53

mean who this

Unknown: 39:55

on our Discord. This person's on our discord? No, let's stop. It's Poppy. Oh my god he was messaging me today he's like I'll submit holy so far just chord there's a guy that just entered in and he has a puppy

Jim: 40:13

he is the cutest dog and I was like oh people who post their dogs

Unknown: 40:18

just a little bit ago you'll see because we'll be like wolf I love dogs and it's like oh no yeah yeah we're literally gonna like Crowley I'm Adams immediately Adam to the fucking throttle I just pictured is like an octopus and you just have men on each tentacle on you're like well maybe tomorrow I'll come back to you know i don't know that's just what I pick I know it's not I don't have

Jim: 40:40

eight men.

Unknown: 40:42

Yeah I think Ms. Ms is smiling a little bit

Jim: 40:46

because it's really cute like he's really any his dick is good. So is he?

The Miz: 40:50

I think he's I think he's I think this is the best one we've had.

Jim: 40:53

I agree.

Unknown: 40:54

I agree. Okay, so what would you rate him?

The Miz: 40:57

I would give him an eight.

Jim: 40:59

I'm thinking Nah, I'm

Unknown: 41:00

thinking nine times eight and a half then because I round out those

Jim: 41:04

if three if two out of three say nine it's a nine okay

The Miz: 41:07

yeah I give him deduction of two points just on his skin color.

Jim: 41:11

Okay, cuz that's lighter but if he's

The Miz: 41:17

got to stop if you if you just claim to the Italian and he's white

Jim: 41:20

some Italians think they're like a different race I'm not even kidding and they're not Oh yeah, you're not there's like Italians in like New York City or like literally like no Tonio it's racism if you don't like Italians I'm like Not really.

The Miz: 41:36

I don't know what the fuck you're talking Yeah. Okay, I

Unknown: 41:38

get it okay I'm just so that's I

Jim: 41:42

can't I can't mine though it is oh leash because I was looking at the other ones you posted I'm like seven seven other ones shouldn't be the seven maybe if that was a seven the thing is is is fully wait till I get the release form I cannot post on our discord our discord is gonna die it's gonna look good because he's in he's in there he's in there and as fuck me there's gonna be so many side dmws going on like

Unknown: 42:05

the drama

Jim: 42:07

god I love it. The fuck Ah ah ah

Unknown: 42:16

because I never go last so let's see what mizzi actually not sorry but she got

The Miz: 42:23

I don't like honestly have anything to do. My update is that my sobriety is going very poor lane. And my friend made me call a therapist and she called me back and now I have to like actually talk to her and I'm pissed about it.

Jim: 42:40

Oh missy.

The Miz: 42:41

Now this is a good thing therapy is good. It's not a good thing I'm pissed about it

Jim: 42:45

now it's always good. Well, why are you Why? Because you're you're Are you at this point in your life and you're like I don't I'm not someone who needs therapy. So you don't want to do it.

The Miz: 42:55

I just don't want to do it. I just want to do I just don't want to I'm just like don't want to I don't make time for I want to pay for it. I don't I don't think don't want to but my

Unknown: 43:04

question is do you do you think that it would be beneficial though if you just look at it from the outside looking

The Miz: 43:09

at like I guess but it's just like annoying me.

Unknown: 43:13

I think what you're annoyed at is that people actually care about you and that's what like

The Miz: 43:17

sharing anything with anybody ever gotten like I why I don't need anyone barking in my ear and just let me like flounder around just like I'm done all nobody wants to do to flounder well I don't care what anyone wants. Like I'm so I'm over it.

Jim: 43:33

But like wait, I'm

The Miz: 43:36

so how do we get I don't talk to anyone about it or share it with anyone or burden anyone with it then why does anyone fucking care? care anymore? Well, you're not gonna know no one's gonna fucking now

Jim: 43:48

we will know.

Unknown: 43:48

Are you mad that we know. Like, I feel like you're now I feel like you're putting the blame on us when we're when you're the one that messages and like, tells us you tell on yourself?

The Miz: 43:59

Well, exactly. So so long is that Ayrton Senna? I need to hear nothing about it.

Jim: 44:04

But I think that that's long term though we want you around you know that won't work. Like it's we came to that realization a couple weeks ago. So I know we have to go from there. We can't go back to the before so

Unknown: 44:18

can I just ask you What what? Why are you what are you fighting? Like what do you Why are you fighting? Like what are you scared? That's gonna actually happen.

The Miz: 44:25

I'm not I said, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just like sick of people like checking in and like, I don't know.

Jim: 44:34

We're not checking in when we're asking you what you're doing. Like I do that to Bobby all the time. I'm not like, hey, Bobby, how's your weight loss journey?

Unknown: 44:41

I feel like we're checking

The Miz: 44:41

on YouTube now. isn't about you? Oh,

Jim: 44:44

I know. I know. But no, no, no, you mean checking in who's checking

The Miz: 44:47

out? I don't mean it's not about you. It's about me. It's I'm speaking about other people.

Jim: 44:52

Oh, yeah, I'm just saying them. To be honest. I know seriously, like I don't really give a fuck like the rent. You mean the randoms were like, not really in But kind of pretending to be interested,

Unknown: 45:02

like yeah good ones yeah

Jim: 45:04

or like people who are

The Miz: 45:05

my good friends who are like now making like that my caseworker

Jim: 45:09

no yeah you don't need that. That's what the caseworkers are for and that's what I their business for.

Unknown: 45:14

I think that's what he's like they're pushing him to go to therapy and that's that's where they're gonna drop it off and say, No, you go to therapy and figure out hopefully what oh, that'll fix all your problems because what you're doing what you're showing us yeah, and the world basically is that is you're trying to hide you're trying to drown whatever is in you that you are not happy about. That's what your alcohol does to you. Whereas like, and I'm not saying and listen this isn't for everybody. You're not the only one that's that has this going on? You have early Yes. Yeah. I mean, I'm not drinking right now and that's not binge but like I drink a lot too. Yeah, and it gets one on Lou. It's Yeah, you drink a lot actually. Oh my god. I mean, you do and you're and we all know because you post on your Instagram, you bitch.

Jim: 46:02

I don't drink that much. I

Unknown: 46:04

was lunch. lunch. Oh, I

Jim: 46:07

had a margarita right? You can have a margarita on your day off. Bobby it's a Tuesday is when you got to IMS tears, I think.

The Miz: 46:18

Anyway, the other topic I had

Jim: 46:22

no other So when are you going to therapy? When it starts?

Unknown: 46:26

Tell us what what your what your I

The Miz: 46:28

have a voicemail from the therapist that I need to respond to. I'm going to my place of work tomorrow live in the flesh. So I'm not going to take the call from there. So I don't know if I'm going to respond.

Unknown: 46:40

Oh, can you take it tonight? Okay, I think you need to take

Jim: 46:44

the call. Agree, fully agree. And that's just because I

Unknown: 46:47

see spin I

The Miz: 46:48

can't do it tomorrow. I don't wanna do it Thursday because I have the semi finals of that fucking queer comedy contest. And then on Friday, I have to get ready to go to LA well maybe I don't know what I'm gonna do

Unknown: 46:59

Friday would be the best day though cuz you're gonna be like packing and But then

The Miz: 47:03

I also have to go get dinner with my friend who like is mad at me.

Jim: 47:06

Oh, why is she mad?

The Miz: 47:11

See, she's mad at me because I I did invite her somewhere when I was hanging out with like our other mutual friends. I don't know I don't know I don't know the full story but she's mad at

Jim: 47:24

me. Such Okay, so bad. She thought you weren't invited. She like she wasn't invited me

The Miz: 47:34

whatever. I mean, it was whatever I'm over it but I need to deal with that on Friday. So no time that

Jim: 47:41

sounds really dumb but I get back so fun. What a fun Friday.

The Miz: 47:46

Anyway, so my other topic was that as sex positive as this conversation has been Oh no, I don't understand the point of it.

Unknown: 48:00

Right like sacks like the act of like penis and vagina

Jim: 48:04

like what it's like to there's really not much oh

The Miz: 48:06

just like putting their bodies together like for I just don't understand how it came to be other than for Reproductive purposes

Jim: 48:14

right other than evolution hardwired to love it.

The Miz: 48:18

And it like controls so much like the power of dick and the power of pussy is like unmatched

Jim: 48:25

well only if you let it

The Miz: 48:28

affect everyone and

Unknown: 48:33

everything you do it's to get to that dick pussy asshole that you want like oh I got a promotion like I'm gonna wear new clothes don't be Hawks. I want some deck it's never like I want to look hot for me it's like I want to look hot for others so that I can get far well that's transformation we

The Miz: 48:47

need industries are shaped by it it's sure Shin obviously music film radio all of it

Unknown: 48:56

every single reality TV

Jim: 48:57

show is based route it Why would hair cheating in real world all these things are me cheating is worse. I don't know the thing is it's empty. So like we don't need that shit. We don't need to watch it. We don't need to pay attention to

The Miz: 49:10

it. Right? But you can just ignore it. And now it's like to No, no,

Jim: 49:14

no, you can Yeah, don't ignore the okay. I here's how I do it. I think of it. The only reason why Thank you fuck.

Unknown: 49:22

You have a dick in your bed every other night.

The Miz: 49:25

I don't think that you resist the urge.

Jim: 49:27

No, I do resist the urge. There's actually people that I'm

The Miz: 49:31

over a dick on the screen.

Jim: 49:35

No, but I'm not doing anything about it. I'm not getting up and flying to immediately.

The Miz: 49:40

I mean that you would do that.

Jim: 49:43

Okay, but is there a difference between letting it control your life and letting it lead to pleasure? Like it the point of sex is it's supposed to be pleasurable. That's some people it's about reproductive reproductive purposes for us. No, we're gay. We're not trying to like fuck someone and make a baby well, so it's Only about the pleasure So focus on that. If it's not bringing you pleasure and it's bringing too much anxiety or concern or am I going to get dick tonight or not? Oh my god, I have to dress this way bla bla bla bla, then don't do it. It's not worth that's not the point of sex. But I understand you're right the society presented as look at these this magazine cover. Look at this show. Oh my god, they're getting a shower naked. Oh my god, they're hooking bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. And it's just like, and we wait in the romance movies to see them kiss at the end and all this other bullshit. I mean, every single not the point is that

The Miz: 50:29

I understand the point of it. But like, it's I just don't understand why it's so because of evolution. High End important. It's like, Oh my god, like I need the pleasure.

Jim: 50:40

Evolution. Uh, yeah, evolution causes us to want that we have pathways in our brain that wire us to want sex. It's not because

Unknown: 50:48

of us. Some of our wires are crossed right now but have

Jim: 50:51

been blunted by drugs for decades. But no, that's really what it's, it's really because it's so essential to survival that if you don't want to have sex in some fashion, your species will die out right? You will die. That's fucked. Why do you think animals have sex? That's true, though. Maybe they do we don't know for sure. But maybe they do get some pleasure out of it. But it's mainly because they have to. If they don't have sex,

The Miz: 51:17

they're gone. Like my rabbit just like orgasm. They

Jim: 51:19

could i think i think they look at it and like some animals and dogs and what probably is probably our horning. Yeah. I mean, they'll randomly go out today. So I

Unknown: 51:29

guess that's what that revolves their life to because they're always looking for the female dogs always smell on

Jim: 51:34

their balls off unless

The Miz: 51:36

funny to me how it like, spanned such a wide range of ages. Like it starts when you're like a teen and it just never goes away. Like you're always capable of getting horned

Jim: 51:50

like even when you're in your 80s and you're obviously not going to reproduce there. So people in nursing homes wanting to hook up with other people. They still want to have sex because yeah, like that release of endorphins and dopamine from having sex. It's always there. That pathway Boom, boom, boom, you want to do a pleasurable? Well that's why we eat and drink that's why we get drunk. That's why people want to get high. It's

Unknown: 52:12

pleasurable. I mean, sex is what brought my parents together sex is what put my parents apart.

Jim: 52:16

Yep. Sex is what drove up president to impeachment. I mean, like when you look at things like sex really is a plays a big role in

Unknown: 52:24

porn star and sorry now

The Miz: 52:26

that's like why is one so but it's

Jim: 52:28

very Yeah, it's very like if sex were just a read purely reproductive and had nothing to do nobody was or it we wouldn't care about it. We'd be like, Oh, yeah, I went and had sex in order to make a son. So I had to not have sex. Like I had a daughter, I had sex I would have a daughter, and then you just move on with your life. It would just be like a procedure like that's the role at play. No, no, it's clearly about eroticism pleasure more.

Unknown: 52:50

I think it's really cool how you put it though, like the evolution of it, and why

Jim: 52:54

that's why it's just really cool. All animals are driven to have sex. Like it doesn't make sense. It's also really fun insect. Why the fuck? What pleasure does an insect get out of reproducing? Other than the need to reproduce? I mean,

The Miz: 53:06

right? So you're saying it's the reproductive need. But like there's so much more about

Jim: 53:13

it? We

Unknown: 53:14

Yes, there is. But he's saying that the chemicals released that's what makes us want to just keep having sex, even if we're not reproducing. We want to get our soul because we have to protect our species. It all goes back to

Jim: 53:27

evolution. Yeah, do you know

The Miz: 53:29

our need for pleasure is because of my subconscious need to protect the human race? Correct? All right, I call bullshit.

Unknown: 53:38

I mean, I actually would like a Fact Finder on that. But I really believe that for a second I mean, but if you really think about it, we're only here this is what I'm saying

Jim: 53:49

why we're here we're only here because other people fucked earlier on like we're not here learned

Unknown: 53:53

over the years that we need to reproduce in order to continue this race no bigger blah blah. So then it's like, it created the chemicals that then now in today's man, caused us to be horny as fuck. And that's what causes all of our problems because we're drawing

Jim: 54:07

I think the reason as humans have gone through history, I think we have more opportunity to experience pleasure we have more opportunity to have random sex before it was survival if you didn't have a house living you know, American food always available. So you had to focus on those things to survive. And then you had sex like when you could like Oh, hey, we're going to cave together we're all warm the fires going maybe we just ate a big meals, we killed something. Now we can have sex like let's try sex. Because we need to reproduce but it's like now we're literally we have all our basic needs met in this country at least. So yeah, of course we're thinking more about I could fuck and have some fun and might feel good. And a lot of us use AI but the problem is people do use it as a coping mechanism. People have sex to avoid other things to feel good briefly to avoid depression. Yeah, and that's how you get addicted to it. It's like boom, the reward the reward, the reward, the reward, grinder grinder grinder grinder. Drink Drink Drink Drink tectectec digress cigarettes cigarettes cigarette oh it's all just we want to feel good we want to do the easiest thing to feel good and it's easy to find someone to hook up with. Quite frankly, honestly

The Miz: 55:14

it's very interesting but I think that's all because of our innate need to reproduce. Yeah,

Jim: 55:19

basically

Unknown: 55:20

I mean when you look at it

Jim: 55:22

now where you don't really need to reproduce anymore but you have time to have pleasure so

Unknown: 55:26

we're at the point now where Millennials are buying houses for their animals over there literally. Literally I was like a study that came out they're like Millennials are having more kids are having more dog babies and are moving to the suburbs so they can run oh shit we're in trouble guy big trouble see the world's ending though so

Jim: 55:41

hopefully I'm just getting out of water maybe not I don't want to tell sorry Ms.

The Miz: 55:49

I didn't I'm not sure the direction that when Yeah, definitely conversations over

Jim: 55:59

in that little chime just told us it is ah ah ah Wow,

Unknown: 56:11

that actually didn't go the way that I was thinking to go eat eggs I was thinking about like the actual act of it and how like it's kind of freak nasty when you really think about it like when I was super depressed last winter I was like jerking off all the time just trying to feel better

The Miz: 56:24

and that's because of your needs to reproduce.

Jim: 56:27

Yeah, well no the underlying reason Yes, the underlying okay the need to reproduce produce the pathways that produce pleasure but now I can just have pleasure

The Miz: 56:36

not rooted in it now. Not

Jim: 56:39

today's man is like making babies and test tubes so it's like it doesn't even matter we could literally we don't need even my God literally we just will probably have a artificial uterus soon so it's like whatever, but it hasn't already happened but we created these like neurotransmitter pathways we didn't create them they came from the need to have sex to reproduce. Yeah. So we actually benefit from the benefits arrival of oh yeah now we get pleasure from it but it's like back then

Unknown: 57:04

then they had to have the they had to have that spark in order to even

Jim: 57:08

even want to do it because I mean in the meantime they're trying to avoid predators find prey to eat just survive literally survive and die at 30 maybe if you're lucky. If you don't get a cut that gets infected that kills you. Well that's the thing I mean, like you're just humans we're lucky we I mean like they were even a species to be honest with you because of this. Right? That's literally Yeah, so we survived because we're smarter our brains got bigger as a primate species and we just kept going and it was like what it's like really

Unknown: 57:35

wild because we don't report our babies suck like

Jim: 57:39

they can't do any they come out other species other mammals even they come out they can walk immediately move around. I mean, it's our babies like

Unknown: 57:46

yeah, like can you imagine two years later they're walking and like able to pick things up? Those days. You got to reproduce at like, 11 you died by 15 like it was like yeah, crazy stuff.

Jim: 57:57

It's Yeah,

Unknown: 57:59

thank you. Ms.

Jim: 58:00

Thanks. That's a good topic. I really love that because I was an anthropology major.

Unknown: 58:05

Oh, I know that. I don't even know Yeah, okay. So that's

Jim: 58:09

Yeah, that's that

Unknown: 58:12

but I didn't know what direction you thought it was gonna go

Jim: 58:14

I miss you tell me we're not gonna I won't say anything. Just you talk about why it's bothering you. Like are you annoyed with sex driving your interactions with other people? No, or like making you want to talk to someone for someone or do you not like sex like having sex don't get like you don't like having sex currently

The Miz: 58:32

it's because of our needs reproduce so now I get it

Jim: 58:37

I don't think it's just that though because like it's not just that it was weak it was that but like we do it for other reasons. Now like now that we have time and safety. I think people have sex to fuck up other people's lives. I think people have sex to disrupt disrupt ruin a relationship make themselves feel better briefly get revenge like oh, I just fucked their girlfriend so that means he'll be mad at me like people use sex now in different ways that are not necessarily from evolution. Okay, but what's Why did you even think of that I wonder I just want to know cuz I won't try to explain

The Miz: 59:10

it away happened a couple days we were talking about it over to I don't really know why

Jim: 59:14

people use sex to exert power like rape. People use sex as a weapon of war go through the village rape every woman I just had sex with all of them like bubbles Oh freak nasty. Yeah, people it's it's interesting. It

Unknown: 59:27

actually like makes the world go round, but also ruins you look the world.

Jim: 59:31

Yes, it does. It's weird. It really does.

Unknown: 59:45

Laugh. nobody's listening because it's the end of the show. Oh my god. I have something to say. And I need to pre face to face this. Oh my god.

Jim: 1:00:00

Hold on is your edible hitting I know I need to go pick another drink I'm sorry okay Sam save your pretty face okay do you need a little like a water water Oh water whitey water oh you're saying

Unknown: 1:00:13

I like to pre phase this though that I am not your highest font I am but I'm not anti trans oh god Here we go again cry

Jim: 1:00:22

so when you pre faced something that means you are that something if what you were gonna say is not anti

Unknown: 1:00:29

what's gonna happen is I'm gonna get attacked

Jim: 1:00:33

but I know you're not but for the show like maybe you just put it out there and maybe get a little bit of tact like I prevent that I present the full PC and then ms gives the little like that's not what he means but I respect it and then you're just going full like I don't get that I miss is like well I don't get it but we have to respect it and then I'm like the full other way. Do you see how there's always for I was clearly not realized producer This is literally our framework.

Unknown: 1:00:59

So I was on Reddit and I was going on a gay page that people share their decks high their decks. Now I go on the page and I scroll down a little bit and there is a vagina which is an organ a genitalia, sex

Jim: 1:01:18

organs,

The Miz: 1:01:18

not a deck not a day not a

Unknown: 1:01:20

day but it was a man with a vagina

Jim: 1:01:23

but what is the Reddit page

The Miz: 1:01:24

title?

Jim: 1:01:25

I don't know like maybe we should be clear about what it is is it like nude men? Yeah, it's

Unknown: 1:01:29

like gay bros

Jim: 1:01:31

Oh, so it's not called

The Miz: 1:01:33

Dixie This was was different

Jim: 1:01:35

Yeah, you told me something else earlier you were like it was dex well it was but no but was it called gay bros

The Miz: 1:01:43

calm and picture was Derek or was it it's

Jim: 1:01:48

torna new Hall sister you want to

Unknown: 1:01:51

get you want me see let me see my gay race is a very

The Miz: 1:01:55

a very interesting

Jim: 1:01:57

story this is fully like because I just gave up fighting about it earlier actually. Oh well it was called the dick page so yes,

The Miz: 1:02:04

I assumed it was called the duck face I don't Yeah,

Unknown: 1:02:06

I don't remember actually honestly what page it was. Cuz it could have been on that. Yeah, well okay, so fuck it. I don't know. Okay, well here's the thing I don't want to see a vagina

The Miz: 1:02:19

you're okay but your stare is on this matter whether or not you're being like insensitive is going to greatly depend on what this page

Jim: 1:02:29

is very important like we need the

Unknown: 1:02:32

don't know what's on the picture. Okay, I think it might have been gay bros Gone Wild

The Miz: 1:02:38

so no indication that it was exclusively for dex itself okay, it's okay

Jim: 1:02:45

it's okay but we don't like it Yeah, I need to know they're gonna yell at you hard

Unknown: 1:02:50

to get so it's a pain Yeah, okay, so it's a page though that I go to to look at penises. What

Jim: 1:02:56

is it called Dinah's page? Is it called? It was called gay. Okay, now you're radically ready to get torn apart

The Miz: 1:03:05

could go there to see gay bros of any variety.

Jim: 1:03:10

It could be a gay man with a vagina. Yeah. Oh no. Bubbles

The Miz: 1:03:15

really may use it just to see decks but that doesn't mean if the sole purpose of the page.

Unknown: 1:03:21

I don't know what to say without being scared of being canceled.

Jim: 1:03:24

You It's okay. You don't have Yeah, okay.

The Miz: 1:03:26

Don't be you know how many people think that I

Unknown: 1:03:31

know a lot. I just don't I just

Jim: 1:03:33

that's a ton of people. Like most people,

Unknown: 1:03:35

so I don't look at I don't look at being gay. I don't know how to describe it. I feel like I'm weird. Now then. Is it weird that I don't want to see the vagina on a man.

The Miz: 1:03:45

No one's talking about your preference. more shocking about why?

Unknown: 1:03:51

Well, I don't know what the actual laws. Rules are apparently, like, they're, you're able to show whatever you want.

The Miz: 1:03:57

Well, if it's a page that isn't specifically designed for deck, then you can't what that does not mean it's specifically designed for deck. That just means that something most people are using it for sure. Sure. So if somebody wants to take it to use that page to post something else, you might not like it and that's fine. But they can still be there. Because it's not if it says Nick. Today Yeah,

Jim: 1:04:22

that makes sense. But like, being like, Okay, this is a gay man page. There are gay men with vaginas. That's just a fact. They're allowed to post their vagina if it's new to the being posted a gay man, post or thread or whatever it is. I don't know read it. But yeah,

The Miz: 1:04:38

but no one is taking issue or I'm not taking issue with the fact that you don't like it. You don't enjoy the picture. That's fine, but they have every right to be there given that it's not specifically a

Jim: 1:04:50

man space. So like we have to welcome all gay men. Sure. Yeah. You think gay men only have penises? No,

Unknown: 1:04:56

I don't. And that's not done. People. Think That no I mean I think well I just don't know how I'm supposed to react to it like it like yeah like

Jim: 1:05:06

you're not you don't have to want to fuck it No one's telling you don't want to fall when I

Unknown: 1:05:10

think of myself as being gay means I like a penis like the actual physical penis that's my definition of being gay I

Jim: 1:05:18

guess I guess yeah,

Unknown: 1:05:19

maybe that's the problem

The Miz: 1:05:20

okay, but what if you are a FTM so you are now and you like other man your fact pattern is a part of you nor is it a

Jim: 1:05:36

penis pay so you don't you think being gay means you have a penis and you like penises

Unknown: 1:05:41

well that's what being because that person is a penis plus penis yeah the F to M gay person also wants penis

Jim: 1:05:49

they do well they want a man they want to know right? You're attracted when a man that's a defy just so for you You thought gay means you're attracted to the genital organ?

Unknown: 1:05:58

I'm not necessarily I don't know maybe I'm weird. No you're not I'm straight.

Jim: 1:06:02

There are a lot of gay men who probably

The Miz: 1:06:04

wouldn't want anything you're not it's straight given that you're overseeing them vagina

Jim: 1:06:10

Yeah. Oh my God he's a fucking but China and my dick page. Oh my fucking god.

Unknown: 1:06:14

I just see up close the I guess my question. I guess maybe I'm just a bad guy. And that's fine. I'll play it today. You are but I'm not because I just sometimes don't understand. It's like you saying but no.

Jim: 1:06:26

We don't hate them. But you hate their genitals?

Unknown: 1:06:27

I don't hate anybody. I love everyone.

Jim: 1:06:30

You just don't want to fuck a trans man.

Unknown: 1:06:32

No, and I don't

The Miz: 1:06:33

you don't want to see. You don't want to see a vagina on what you thought was a dick page but it's not a dick page.

Jim: 1:06:40

That's it?

Unknown: 1:06:40

Sure I mean that's fine. I don't I don't think I'm actually no I

The Miz: 1:06:43

don't think it's that inaccurate representation of no that's exactly what sent

Jim: 1:06:49

me. It's like these are all dick stick stick sticks and they're like, vagina

Unknown: 1:06:54

but if I see that's the thing if we're all gay if we're going after the deck.

Jim: 1:07:02

Man I'm going after men like that's why I kind of start using the term queer because I'm worried about people like you who use gay to mean going after dick and I'm not really like I'm really interested in men I like for example

The Miz: 1:07:15

if I somehow I agree I also don't like vagina right obvious right? But fell in love with a guy who was FTM I wouldn't consider myself straight right?

Unknown: 1:07:31

Well no I wouldn't either cuz so then that's why they're on the gay page

Jim: 1:07:36

cuz you guys are good. You like you man like man,

The Miz: 1:07:39

while the genitalia may vary

Jim: 1:07:44

Bobby's face right now he is he's having a breakthrough

The Miz: 1:07:48

now I'm I need to retract everything I said in that fucking tank. was a dick page.

Unknown: 1:07:57

No, it doesn't matter if it was a dick page

The Miz: 1:07:59

matter

Jim: 1:08:00

I interpreted this correctly and I wish I knew I knew I was like I know I

Unknown: 1:08:05

don't know where it's from because I scroll read and I follow all these different pages like rate my dick straight guys deck. Okay, only fans males

Jim: 1:08:13

here. Maybe it was a gay guy dick. If

The Miz: 1:08:16

it doesn't check, then age then I would That's what I'm saying.

Unknown: 1:08:21

I don't I that's where I'm I'm the one that's confused right now because I can't find it. And I don't know what page it was on. So I was just scrolling.

The Miz: 1:08:30

Okay, well, it sounds like it was not a tech page. And I mean, it probably was that it probably wasn't. And no one is taking issue with your partner. No one cares. Like that picture one. That's fine, but they can still post it. Given the nature of the page. If they're a

Jim: 1:08:47

gay man, they can post their genitals. Okay, Bobby's like I need Desa Well, I'm just still

The Miz: 1:08:56

signing up for you. Yeah, what

Jim: 1:08:58

part are you? You're letting sex drive your life just like

Unknown: 1:09:02

talking about I don't know why it's bothering me. Your

Jim: 1:09:06

your acceptance of trans man is being driven by the genital organ correct?

Unknown: 1:09:10

I'm questioning I'm questioning everything that I am then. No.

The Miz: 1:09:14

You you define gayness as being attracted to a penis. Correct? Right man? A man.

Unknown: 1:09:20

I mean, it's both. But like, I like the man that see this is I can't sound right. The man that I want has a penis like I legit penis. Okay, you're attracted to is that a preference? Or is that me being sexist to gay? Okay, but trans man transphobic it's

The Miz: 1:09:36

the way that it was communicated. You could be like, Okay, this picture came up because they posted it on this page. Sure. I

Unknown: 1:09:45

overreacted vagina on my face personally

The Miz: 1:09:47

don't like it. not been fine.

Unknown: 1:09:51

I don't know. But you know what, like,

Jim: 1:09:52

here's how I think about it. There's a lot of gay men out there that I'm not attracted to. So you're not attracted this particular gay man. You don't have to say particularly what it's about Yeah, I agree, but you can just be like, I'm not attracted to this gay man. That's not the one for me. I swear a lot of gay guys out there that I live like No, not really. I don't care if you have a vagina or deck, but I'm not really into you. It's such a personal preference. Like To me, it doesn't matter. Like if I see a man, that's fucking hot. I'm not thinking like, what's in their pants? I want to know if they're four inches or 10 inches. Or if they vagina I don't even I'm not worried about that part. If I like get along with them, they interact with me Well, I want to hang out with them go on a date with them. They're hot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not my first thought is not like Oh, they better have a really perfect deck or I won't like them.

The Miz: 1:10:40

I know. I fell on require a penis.

Unknown: 1:10:44

photo. I That's what I'm saying. But that doesn't make sense to me. Why? No,

Jim: 1:10:50

I think you're allowed to want a deck.

The Miz: 1:10:52

I want a penis. Yeah, if you want to post on a gay man page, it should be

Unknown: 1:11:00

exactly the same. So that's fine. And it's like I shamed it. All right, I just in my head. I'm thinking, why am I seeing a vagina literally up close? Like in the vagina on a gay man's page? But then

Jim: 1:11:14

because? Yes, because only recently as the whole thought of it even change. It's only been a few decades where people are like, trans men belong in gay men spaces if they're gay. Like nice right? That's a new that's not like we haven't I don't think a lot of people thought about that for a while. No, I didn't learn this until I was like 20 literally, I mean, this is new to most people. And I'm sure there are some listeners who are like oh I know some there are men with vaginas who can be gay like what yeah

Unknown: 1:11:47

i mean it's

Jim: 1:11:49

it's fucking things up. But as long as it's talked about respectfully, it's fine You're allowed to I mean, you're allowed to have a preference if you want to, and fuck a deck

Unknown: 1:12:00

you're allowed I just feel like as we continue forward in life, you're worried that everything is going to become blurred and all the lines that you're gonna be left you're gonna I'm gonna look like a bad guy because I don't understand how you can hide us

Jim: 1:12:12

You just have to remember that you're not as long

Unknown: 1:12:14

as you have loved not not right and that's the thing though. I'm not not accepting I

Jim: 1:12:17

as long as you didn't comment something mean on this person's vagina? I wouldn't ever do that well then you're

Unknown: 1:12:21

fine I would never do that. I wouldn't be like you're an ugly man. You're not a man. It's I'm just confused right myself personally because it's hard for me to grasp because in front of me it's

Jim: 1:12:31

new. Yeah, you're new things are uncomfortable that's normal. And it's there's nothing wrong with that you're not canceled because of that. Or I wouldn't cancel you for fuck sake.

Unknown: 1:12:42

No, I just hope I'm not misunderstood. But actually

Jim: 1:12:45

I don't think you are I think both of us are fully understanding you Ms.

The Miz: 1:12:51

I think the word dick page shouldn't have been used because it was not so yes I did greatly misunderstand the situation given the way it was described. But I understand where you're coming from.

Unknown: 1:13:08

I love it like Everything I have is like deck so just scroll up like it's just like I'm constantly looking at deck so

The Miz: 1:13:16

this is like a metaphor you're basing it off of what you're used to seeing and the norm but it's not what the page is for

Unknown: 1:13:23

so

Jim: 1:13:27

Polly hates vaginas he hates

Unknown: 1:13:29

no

The Miz: 1:13:31

you don't need to sit there and say no you can you do you hate vagina fine

Unknown: 1:13:36

No Yes I do not like the the Oregon

Jim: 1:13:40

like the sleeve Yeah, I don't like that God no I don't like the lips I don't like

The Miz: 1:13:46

what you're being spoken to for lack of better word about is not your preference about your genitalia of choice. It's that you took an issue with it being on the page when they had every right to be on the page you could just scroll past and disapprove

Jim: 1:14:04

of it like how many ugly decks do we see in our discord right go past we don't look at them all and be like you shouldn't be here.

Unknown: 1:14:10

Oh yeah, we didn't have like three episodes.

Jim: 1:14:13

We only allow we only

Unknown: 1:14:15

rated the entire fucking discord about posting ugly deck so I'm a fucking asshole

Jim: 1:14:20

all around you hate vagina. So you just want perfect Dixon here? I do not. You're a little picky, honey. I'm not for someone like you with an ugly day. You're very picky. That's not the only thing you talk about this week. Okay, the story. Bubbles transphobic

Unknown: 1:14:41

i'm not i need to recognize that the trans person is just looking for a safe space. I need to recognize that that's what that person needs instead of my own need, which was finding males that have penises, not men with vaginas. Okay. This is what I don't understand. Though Do you see how it's

The Miz: 1:15:02

Sam that the page you're on, and the world we live in? is a place for various walks of life? And just, you know, because it's not the norm and not your preference it's not me that they should not be there.

Unknown: 1:15:17

And that's what I need to correct in my head is that not instead of looking at like it's porn for Bobby, this could be somewhere who wants to express themselves on a safe space? Right? Because they are now

The Miz: 1:15:28

logically, it's not a dick page. So the fact that non deck presents itself should not make you upset, correct?

Jim: 1:15:36

Oh my God, we just came to a full resolution. row we didn't because he wants to say he hates trans people but he's like I can't say I don't hate them by talking about it.

Unknown: 1:15:54

I think about like people like my mother, kind Jesus and trying to explain this to them. My

Jim: 1:16:01

mother was dead in that rotunda.

The Miz: 1:16:04

Okay, and what's your issue with that?

Unknown: 1:16:06

But how do I describe like how would you describe it to Jocelyn like there's men with vaginas does Jocelyn understand that? Is that common? Thanks. She's a human and

Jim: 1:16:15

could if you explained it, right.

The Miz: 1:16:17

I think it's okay. Hi, I was on a gay man's page. Here is a FTM person who identifies as a man who likes other men. So there it's like a formula. A equals B, B plus c equals the I guess I

Unknown: 1:16:32

didn't finish college.

Jim: 1:16:35

oh five Yeah,

The Miz: 1:16:36

you don't learn that you can't do a goddamn open mic so I'm well aware.

Unknown: 1:16:43

Oh, this was when he wasn't gonna make me feel bad. Okay, so Okay, am I like, okay,

Jim: 1:16:51

you might be transphobic and that's fine. Like we're once not fine but like we're here. No,

Unknown: 1:16:55

I'm not. No, I really, I just it just it just threw me for a loop because in my head being gay means you like penises.

The Miz: 1:17:03

So you so that's something that you we are unlearning. And you were going to learn the correct right

Unknown: 1:17:11

and that's one thing I think there's probably a lot of people like me, I just feel like I'm going to be I think it'd be pushing back for

Jim: 1:17:17

now. I think if you met a trans guy and you talked to like a trans a gay trans guy and you talk to them, you would realize like oh wait, he's really just a guy like me. And maybe he doesn't have a penis. But maybe Oh no, you're so uncomfortable. You're like shaking

The Miz: 1:17:33

the eye. That far I won't be attracted to someone with a vagina I'm sorry I just won't but that does not mean that they can't exist

Unknown: 1:17:45

I was wrong.

The Miz: 1:17:47

Like I don't like fucking Mike guides right? I don't find you attractive I don't want to fuck you. Can you post your white deck on the page? Absolutely.

Unknown: 1:18:01

Rough it is because I'm trying because I'm also putting on other hats I'm thinking how would I tell my sister that's how I tell my friends that's because my friends because that's how I look at

The Miz: 1:18:13

Can you conceptualize it?

Unknown: 1:18:15

Well that's I'm saying it's hard for me so that's why

The Miz: 1:18:18

I think effect conceptualization I'm

Jim: 1:18:21

literally have family members who can't even understand why would I care what they think about trans people like

Unknown: 1:18:27

a family member because I guess I really want acceptance and that's really what it breaks down. Well, you already

Jim: 1:18:31

have it, but like we have to create it for other people because if we don't understand it, and we're already marginalized, like imagine what female to male trans men are experiencing. Like you can't even understand it and you have been marginalized and you've gotten through that and I'm fat and yo God you always have to deal with

The Miz: 1:18:49

understand it you don't have to want one to jack off to it.

Jim: 1:18:54

No but you

The Miz: 1:18:55

just have to understand

Unknown: 1:18:55

that's where and that's where I went wrong and the whole situation

Jim: 1:18:58

is I share like vices vagina when I'm horny Why is your vagina

Unknown: 1:19:02

right I will look at it selfish

Jim: 1:19:03

I wanted to look at Cox thick fat cock

Unknown: 1:19:07

but gee no okay. I think that that that I

The Miz: 1:19:09

understand

Jim: 1:19:10

I get it like I get it when you were making Yeah, I make more sense now because before I was like, why is this bitch literally targeting a trans man? Because he has a vagina

Unknown: 1:19:20

and that's where I think yeah cuz we all we had a whole blow we had

Jim: 1:19:24

dear listeners we had a fucking blowout while Jim was

Unknown: 1:19:27

taking Iran pictures of his Florida trip. We were also in mid fight.

Jim: 1:19:35

Yes, we did.

Unknown: 1:19:36

Because I was talking with Ms. And then Jim's like, I haven't been reading but you're transphobic What? I know. A cocktail my sorry.

Jim: 1:19:43

just catching up. Now Bobby's transphobic and then, like a week later we find out he is.

Unknown: 1:19:48

I mean, I'm not transphobic I'm not and I want people to live their truth. You can't tell me. You can't tell me Now that I have to like we are I know that that's the way you're making me feel.

Jim: 1:20:05

I think you're working through your uncomfortable nests with this you're like okay this is very new and weird I'm still figuring it out but just talking about it makes me feel awkward and wrong but we're saying you're not I don't know I think you're you were coming from the right place I am my heart just because you're not I've only heard Yes, I don't think you've processed it yet but you have all the information and you're not rejecting it so it's fine. Just process it later at your own pace

Unknown: 1:20:36

and probably when I'm not at a pool you know what I'm saying?

Jim: 1:20:38

Oh yeah,

Unknown: 1:20:39

that's what I would go deeper into this like I'm going deep.

Jim: 1:20:42

I don't well I think you have some concerns about being cancer exacerbating

The Miz: 1:20:46

going deep and deep and I think you're viewing it way too surface which is oh gay man like deck I want deck the deck should be here.

Jim: 1:20:58

I mean, you have talked about this before where you've said things like so 10 years from now or like we're not even going to be allowed to be cisgender we're not even going to be allowed to be gay like what's the new thing going to be blah blah blah you're going to be left behind in this old way you think you're gonna be canceled like old white men are I don't think you are I don't think you are I just think you are

The Miz: 1:21:21

higher moments like these to ensure that you are not

Unknown: 1:21:26

correct and I would agree with that i think Yeah, I don't know what is deeper though. I'm trying to think of why it would be so maybe because I've been waiting like I waited so long for except again here My son is like am I behind already? Almost like oh okay two years later Am

Jim: 1:21:43

I still behind like I fought

Unknown: 1:21:45

tooth and nail I don't know then do it that but

The Miz: 1:21:48

like but it's also not about you.

Unknown: 1:21:50

Right right and that's I'm saying so I don't need to relate it

The Miz: 1:21:53

to yourself you just need to be like okay, I thought the subject page it's not now I now moving on?

Unknown: 1:21:59

Don't let it all right. Correct. And I think correct.

Jim: 1:22:04

But I think that's why it's bothering us because you're kind of like I spent my whole life getting to this point I'm delayed in every way compared to my peers who have marriages since 23. And kids and blah blah blah the whole life the straight life for like 90 day Yeah, just today. It took me till I was 30 today and come out bah bah but now it's like it's already a new system is already out like I already feel like I'm out of out of out of commish

Unknown: 1:22:28

so now I'm supposed to and I get this create the space? That's all it is. We get it and I get it there's a difference between gender and genitalia. Like Like that's Yes,

Jim: 1:22:39

rightly. Or Yeah, yeah, genitalia does not define your gender gender is created. Do

Unknown: 1:22:45

we just look at what we want then in genitalia? Or do we look at what we want? Do you know I'm saying

Jim: 1:22:51

you look at what you want in a person cuz it's not all about sex. So don't worry about the shirttail Yeah, focus on the person. That's right.

The Miz: 1:22:57

By your logic Would you like some like appearing Li female with a huge parry cock?

Jim: 1:23:03

Right That's what Bob if Bobby wants to caulk so you like trans women? Cox Oh, I want to koco That's hot. Oh wait, this person definitely is dressed in a dress and

The Miz: 1:23:17

just nothing wrong with having preferences. It just it and that's true. It's just allowing them to exist, even though they're not your preference that you need to do.

Jim: 1:23:29

There are kinks and things out there that you don't even like like shitting on people pissing on people things that you're probably not ensure that but you don't worry about them. You're not like oh my god if I don't want to piss on someone Am I like sexually left out? Am I old fashioned?

Unknown: 1:23:42

So what if the video then was posted on a non pis? But

The Miz: 1:23:47

the problem is, was it was a non Bing was not a dick page or not a non vagina? If it

Unknown: 1:23:54

were the man, how do you call you okay? So you have to be specific, like I

The Miz: 1:23:58

want. If you want dick,

Unknown: 1:24:01

then you have to say I want

The Miz: 1:24:02

porn with Tichenor. Like, I get what you want. But yeah, if something presents itself, it's not what you want. It's not a problem. I got it.

Jim: 1:24:11

It doesn't you don't have to have a crisis of identity just because someone has put up puts the picture in a gay man page.

Unknown: 1:24:17

It just changed my thought, especially when you guys start talking about it made me think like I didn't get challenged you. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'm hearing meaning I like I don't, I'm not I was not in the right. I wasn't like in my head. I was looking for decks, but I didn't take in consideration that that person is just looking for a safe space to express themselves.

Jim: 1:24:34

Yeah, cuz they're imaginary. Okay, right there. They went to the gay page. So and that's okay.

The Miz: 1:24:39

Right? They logically fit into that category. Now,

Unknown: 1:24:43

just because I am not attracted to a man with a vagina does not mean

Jim: 1:24:47

you're being cancer.

The Miz: 1:24:48

Okay? Correct.

Jim: 1:24:50

You just don't like vaginas. The actual A lot of people don't want to fuck a vagina like a lot.

Unknown: 1:24:56

But I do have a question. Yes, and this is probably gonna

Jim: 1:25:01

You may and you may

Unknown: 1:25:02

so do youth this I'm really asking some curious do get do gay F to have sex in their vagina or do they do anal sex?

Jim: 1:25:12

No, they do vaginal. I think it can

The Miz: 1:25:15

really matter.

Unknown: 1:25:17

They know but I don't know if that was like a thing.

Jim: 1:25:18

Like, do they get fun? Yeah. Because it's like, feels good. As long as you rub the clit which is basically a dick. It's gonna they're gonna come. So yeah, they do vaginal sex. Why wouldn't you? It's right. I didn't know it's self lubricating. Like I would love it.

The Miz: 1:25:35

I'd be like, yeah, shove it right because you wouldn't have to

Jim: 1:25:37

like prep, you wouldn't have to do an animal

Unknown: 1:25:40

smell good machine. Now

Jim: 1:25:41

you wouldn't just get fucked in your vagina.

Unknown: 1:25:45

Like men just want to fuck a hole anyway, so you could write

Jim: 1:25:48

you could get a straight guy to fuck you at any moment where like, I know look like a man because I am but I have this policy, and then be like, well, maybe from behind. And then you just bend over your head on a pillow. Fuck, that'd be hot. I love it. I will strike I would fuck me and my vagina. I do I actually think about that. Like I fantasize about it. Sorry. No, Hey, good.

Unknown: 1:26:16

Okay, well,

Jim: 1:26:18

we've covered a lot of ground here and we've we're still uncertain if Bobby's transphobic but we've covered a lot of ground.

Unknown: 1:26:25

No, I think we're not uncertain. You I think we're certain that I'm not transphobic that I am vagina phobic.

Jim: 1:26:32

Just go to the right page next time so you don't bitch about something inappropriately.

Unknown: 1:26:36

Well, you gotta learn you gotta make a mistake to learn.

Jim: 1:26:40

Yeah, really? destructor or whatever the fuck this rap tour.

Unknown: 1:26:46

You're the disrupter and Don't look at me like that. Final thoughts. I want Firstly, I

Jim: 1:26:53

don't even know I have to like remember this stuff before this giant conversation

Unknown: 1:26:57

uncomfortable Instagram postings. How the

Jim: 1:27:02

morea, Maria polyamory Bobby's learning to read again. That's where we're at.

Unknown: 1:27:08

Ethical. Mori. sobriety success. Gross. Why? And then vaginas. And

Jim: 1:27:17

I can't wait to read this Instagram description. Hi, guys. I have no idea. But we talked about polyamory.

Unknown: 1:27:25

Masters of mayhem. It's gonna be a mayhem. My final thought is that I am glad that I can be vulnerable enough to make a comment even if it isn't the right comment. It's two friends that I trust will correct me. And I think that's important to have friends that will put you in check every once in a while because that's how you stay the course

Jim: 1:27:50

not being canceled. Right? I think that's good. And I think my final thought is always try to create a safe space like you guys did with me when I talked about polyamory where you weren't just like That's ridiculous. I think that's going to lead to bah bah, bah, bah, bah. And we can do that with every group. We can do that for everyone. Just always when you're talking to someone don't dismiss what they're saying. Listen, create a safe space discuss unless they work a trade unless they're in a trade and then just like Bobby just let them fuck off because there

The Miz: 1:28:19

I'll never create a space for the trade community.

Jim: 1:28:22

The whole trades are trash.

The Miz: 1:28:26

About Nothing to do with the trade community.

Jim: 1:28:28

Set your vinyl

The Miz: 1:28:31

next time you're gonna worry about undesirable pictures of you going public remember who the fuck you are. Looking back

Jim: 1:28:43

all the way certainly

Unknown: 1:28:44

a final thought is Ms. Mizell go home with a $15 printer card.

The Miz: 1:28:49

You better fucking sent me

Jim: 1:28:51

on it.

Unknown: 1:28:52

I'll send you some pf Chang cards

Jim: 1:28:54

you go to Panera.

Unknown: 1:28:56

I do all the time.

Jim: 1:29:00

You actually go to Panera

Unknown: 1:29:03

McAllister What do you get their chicken salad sandwich and a bowl of broccoli cheddar soup. And that's only like huh, I think 900 calories

Jim: 1:29:11

are we sure? Oh yeah. No, it's only nine. Yeah, but for Bobby that's I mean I am hora de double you that's a four out of Bobby's day

Unknown: 1:29:20

um double Have you Wow, how many calories Do you take in a day? or How many are you saying

Jim: 1:29:25

to like 2000s

Unknown: 1:29:27

yeah okay so I'm have a 900 calorie for your calories for the day and yeah, but only two meals that the snacks the drain. I don't need snacks. I don't eat snacks. I know. That was what about the pickle? That was counted in

The Miz: 1:29:42

lunch.

Jim: 1:29:44

So you're adding snacks to lunch now which is a danger Oh

Unknown: 1:29:47

I see. I swear to god like all I do is eat I might have been doing no i'm not i will tell you exactly what

Jim: 1:29:54

it is two meals a day. That's one square meter.

The Miz: 1:29:59

100 calories.

Unknown: 1:30:00

But if you think about it my size

The Miz: 1:30:03

right so how am I supposed to train your thighs

Unknown: 1:30:08

okay so if I go that much I will never be I'll be malnutrition

The Miz: 1:30:13

no you'll be you'll be you'll be

Jim: 1:30:16

a normal you'll be a normal way

Unknown: 1:30:18

I can't wait to get to normal wait okay this might turn overweight like I hate to say it is I honestly think it is like Lissa like she works out we won't go there we're not talking about fat today we're talking about hey we can't

Jim: 1:30:35

we're gonna cancel guys if you think Bobby got canceled for being transphobic way to eat bad mouth lizzo

Unknown: 1:30:40

she's gonna actually come out

Jim: 1:30:42

lizzo army on well she might

The Miz: 1:30:46

you know on next time how much I fuckin halos. Oh, she's a duck. Baby con I'm so sick of her

Unknown: 1:30:50

that actually could be a new sag Have you talked about like divas and they're like, horrifying lives to talk about let's um, I feel like there's some more in there that you would talk about.

The Miz: 1:31:01

Maybe Billy Eilish because she looks fishy smells like a dirty sour cream and onion coffee. definitely

Unknown: 1:31:06

smells like sour cream and onions. But I do like her

Jim: 1:31:09

songs. who smells like sour on you?

Unknown: 1:31:13

Okay, so yeah, why are you getting mad at the end? I'm

The Miz: 1:31:17

not getting mad.

Unknown: 1:31:18

I ripped off your headphones and now you're putting them back on?

Jim: 1:31:21

I have questions. Close it out.

Unknown: 1:31:24

Subscribe Share with your friends. Thank you Have a great week. Bye.

The Miz: 1:31:27

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