Yes...And... (a look into improv, comedy & life Featuring Michael Burke)

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I don't have I don't wear masks like him. Every time you see him. He's got a mask he could be speaking 200 feet away from it. He shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen.

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She's not doing so well. It's a podcast. I'm Bobby.

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nonfat sugar free. The tongue. My tongue is in my throat. And

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I'm going to try to limit the box to

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10. Love it.

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I'm just so awkward at this God. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of she's not doing swell. I'm Bobby. I'm Jim. Thank you for joining us.

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Thank you. And welcome. Welcome to

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the episode. Welcome to the shit show of America. It is a shit show right now. 100% show. I mean, the opening clip kind of says at all says it all. And why don't you tell us what's going on in the world?

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Well, our dear leader has contracted the what he calls Chinese plague. And the irony is good could not be sweeter.

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I mean, I think like this is like a revenge fog. I don't know what it is. I feel so vindicated. Or

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since that tweet that was like RBG argued her first case before God successfully like this is just

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Yeah, she's not

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better. Like she goes up. She's like, please don't replace me until the next president. And then within one hour, the republicans are like ninja now we're replacing her right now. Immediately.

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And she's like, okay, okay, I'll show you replace immediately. I'm gonna go ahead and get this rose garden all mixed with COVID

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Yeah, post is super spreader event in DC. Now there's been more cases in the White House than in like most other nations combined most of

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Kansas. Yeah. All of Yeah,

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it's actually don't know i think is actually kind of bad.

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It's more than New Zealand and Vietnam combined. I mean, it's Zealand's like smart. They're smart. Yeah. Well, they're led by a woman. What do you expect? But here we are in America, America, the home of the free

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or free home of the brave? Man, Eric Ha.

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is grace on

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D. And please don't kill Trump. But if you do,

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we'll still pray.

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We're a Christian nation. We don't know anyone.

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You don't you know, but no. You

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know what karma has other plans and we're not going to complain. Karma is a bitch. Karma is a bitch. that's ultimately what?

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That's karma for you right there. That's karma clicking that button all the time.

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Yeah, I mean, this man has downplayed COVID since the beginning. He's actually like, it's just like the flu. He's made fun of people for the masses. We just heard he made fun of Joe Biden for wearing a mask in the debate in the debate where he was already where he was already sick, and infected, and exposed. How many hundreds of people so this man is disgusting. He got it because he is inapt. And he didn't follow any of the guidance given to him by the world's best scientists who are around them all the time.

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The thing that really bothers me about him is he's actually smart. That's what's so fucked up about it. It's like, he's allowing these backwoods proud boys bullshit. That's what we're gonna talk about that we got to get into that. They, you know, he's gonna listen to them, but like when it comes to like, he's smarter than that, you know what I mean?

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Oh, yeah, you know, he's got advisors. He knows what's happening

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he just but he individually is actually a really smart

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Well, I don't know. I'm giving a lot of bankrupt idiot. I don't

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know. We don't really well. We know

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and heard about taxes. Oops, near me. This

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week has been like returning you want to talk about a fucking

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like when you're in the shade, allow tax return.

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He's been hiding them for how many years? And now they're out when he wouldn't denounce white supremacy.

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What else?

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Everything.

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It's bad, but this is like I could click this button all the time.

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Yeah. It's been a clusterfuck of a week. I mean, I the whole week. I'm like, I've got to talk to Bobby.

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I know it's been really a struggle like I mean, I don't know what to say anymore. Like, this is what I'm like. Yeah, I feel like I'm just repeating myself. Right and like, Oh, well look now he's tearing down all of New York City like I mean, what's next? We're gonna burn down a city like

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Well, yeah, we got one month left. We got a vote. We got to get this motherfucker out as I've been saying. Yeah, I mean, if he doesn't take himself out

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oops, hopefully well, hopefully it doesn't hopefully it gets him like a bitch. What does it say? slack

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I moved on or like a bitch. I don't even wait, as he said about women everywhere. I mean, I think what's worse is probably Mike Pence gay.

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Gay.

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Jade was thinking it and i and i thought it so I mean, you know

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Yeah, Michael pence would be probably just as bad or worse. So we got to get them both out. They got to go away. They gotta go. Mike Pence can go back to under his rock and Indiana and have a little boy his mother.

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Well, well, well, you know everybody's little to him because he's like, 68 or something. Now that being in your 60s is wrong.

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We love our 60s, folks.

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That's your thing. Can we talk about age Look, I'm not trying to be ageist or whatever. Well, well, here we go. Okay. My thing is this, okay, you're running a business. Okay. It's 2020. You're running a business, which is not really a great time to do that. But you're doing it made a choice. And you're like, I need to hire somebody. Yeah, I have a 35 year old, maybe 40. Like in their prime very smart to that. Or have this 77 year old or 74 year old that are also applying Who am I going to hire? Yeah, not the 70 something I

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never experienced

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a time you got my benefit. You're going to die and want to pay for your funeral. Honey, honey, I'm going there. Go. But do you mean why would you hire somebody? If you hired the 40 year old? He's still got 25 good years to lead your company to success? Yes. We don't know what's happening with 77 year olds. My grandparents died in their 80s. So Oh, wow. That's older than most. I know. My one grandmother died at 63. Wow. So anyway, am I real biological grandfather died at 32.

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So So thanks for that trip down memory lane. everything's going

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great. You know what I mean? Like, everything's just fucking fantastic. I can't. I've never

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heard about your grandparents. Yeah. Are they like a potato and molasses type of family?

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No, my Well, my grandfather died at 30. He died of colon cancer. Oh, and I had awkward. He's Italian. But also when I did my ancestry, though, I don't have any Italian me

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ancestry ancestry. Like

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when I did my ancestry, and I thought, Man Cool. Well, no, I'm just kidding. We can't go there. There's a lot of serious things happening. I can't go there with like, Uncle fucking I'm not gonna like do that. But have you? I mean, have I ever given a handy to my uncle? Well, just the ones just the one. Merry Christmas. Well, I forgot your Christmas card. But I gotta go hand

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that man. I'm 18. So it's allowed and legal, legal and allowed. l&l Well, legal, la, la, la, la, legal and allowed

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LA. Anyway. Fucking mass. This is a mass were massive.

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But But back to ageism. So basically, you wouldn't know the old person. No, I wouldn't see our ages got it.

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But I don't think it is. I would rather have somebody is it ages? I mean, kinda I don't believe it. I think I mean, fake news.

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with Trump in the hospital, someone's got to claim fake news. I mean, it's just

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it's unbelievable, cuz I turn on Fox News, because I was like, the other side is actually talking about it. That's kind of weird. But like, let me be fair. I mean, it's like, you know, I know some people probably watch Fox News. So like, let me just go see what they're saying about this whole situation, because cnn is actually like, kind of concerned. I'm like, why are we so concerned about this fucking prick? I don't know. I don't want him to die. I don't wish ill on anybody. But, I mean, when it's your time, it's your time. You know,

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as he said, it is what is what

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it is it is what it is. So but my favorite like argument with these people is like the president united states being a Corona so that means like, we shouldn't be doing any precautions because like, if he can get anybody going, and he was fine precautions, right? Was he wasn't was he? We

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all know in the White House. No one wore masks his valor. His valet was positive. And he still served Trump while positive. I mean, it's like these people don't care. They don't care

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what they do now all of a sudden. Oh, oh, you're being so rude.

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The Democrats are mean you literally

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hundred thousand people were dying. So

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we're losing 1000 Americans a day to this and you called it a hoax and fake

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until one person that's a fat fucking White House. By the windows open Well, fuck it. This fat fuck fat fucking the white house

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gets it now. It's real announcer outs real? We need to show respect. Where was the respect? Literally earlier, you're like, open up the economy. Screw the week. Let the week die open up the economy. It's not affecting young people. It's not affecting healthy people. It's only the old and people with pre existing conditions. Well, you know what? Your old Why don't we keep that? keep that going. Then why don't we change now? Oh, Trump got it. Oh, we're supposed to be good. Oh, it's bad. It's a bad thing. But then

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they're like, well, if he can get it we we might as well open everything up. Because if he can get it, anybody can get it. He's not gone. Yeah. And he's a fucking idiot. And he made fun of the opponent on stage for having a mask and like wearing a mask all the time. Fuck you. Yeah, that's all I gotta say about that. All Fuck you. Fuck you, bitch. Um, okay. Oh.

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Jim got a hold of the button once you start at the bottom.

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Acting like oh, gay.

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He's not gay.

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He's not gay. We Yeah. Um, okay, so I don't know if we're gonna do is a good rant. Yeah, I know.

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Michael was like that was good. That's like classic. I was like a classic episode right there. I feel like we're getting drunk before. Yeah, we'd be like fucked a little bit.

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Little a loose you know?

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Hey, hey guys,

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we are those Margarita cans a 13% in the can and this is like five honey, this was it was triple that. Oh

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almost I don't know. So I want to talk about Michael Burke real quick. Okay, so we had Michael Burke on the show. Oh my god. We had Dave with us. He

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can I say that?

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Yeah, absolutely. He's hot. He's fucking hot.

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Sorry. And he's funny as shit. Oh, yeah, he's sweet. The main thing is he's sweet.

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He really is actually I love your bonuses. When you meet some people. You don't know what you're gonna get. You know what I mean? Like sometimes you're like, you can look at Well, you

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can see people online and like on tik tok and on instant be like, Oh, they seem really nice. And then you're not sure you're not sure. He was so nice.

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He was actually nice. I left my ass off. So I mean, we were laughing so hard. We talked last. I haven't had it down less than an hour, but we talked him for an hour. I mean, good solid conversation. Yeah, I mean, there's moments that were like, that's actually me being fully me. Yeah, that we're all fully being we were so that was like the first time in a long time. I've been really comfortable. And he doesn't like North Carolina. Yes.

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family. And I

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know he moved from LA. But he was still out in LA, right. Like I had no idea what he was doing. So like, it's amazing to see him start to like gain some traction because process he Oh my

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god, the whole thing is just incredible. Like, how do you stumble upon the New York thing like the New York

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malarious he's got this whole suit. I'm gonna post the fucking car. I mean, as we asked him, like, what

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is it like to post something and then have thousands and thousands of views. It's my dream. Eat? Well, I'm like, one day.

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I'm gonna wake up one day with 1000 likes, like four likes, like wow, I spent four hours editing a preview promo video and I got 10 views school,

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please review please. Like

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I realized that Instagram is kind of bullshit though. Now that the more I think about it, I'm like, I don't know if I really should take what I mean. Sometimes I get like a good post up and it's like, great. But other times when I put my heart into it, it's four hours long. Oh, nobody likes that. Nobody participates either. That's another thing going on. Or people don't know they don't they learned on like,

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here's a free book. Nope. No one wants it,

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man. It's bad. It's bad. People are fucking lazy. We have books. I might as well have a fucking library in here. Oh, no. But if someone's saying

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he is a librarian right now,

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I am getting books sent to me from authors so we can interview them and have a really good interview. And we have some to give away to listeners because that was part of my like gig. I was like we you know, we give away stuff if we're going to have you on the show. Because I feel like that's a fair trade. Like, I want to talk about you. I want to least get somebody who really does pay attention to you. Yeah. Because if they're gonna reach out during your interview, then they were interested in you, you know what I mean? They were that you would connect with them. And I'd like that. I mean, nobody's reaching out. But I mean, zusak was

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Jinjin sake was here.

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Oh my god, I need to like, dress up. We need to get our neighbor in. But she opened a bar. So I want to be June June. So qual,

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June, June Slayer? Which neighbor? Well, two down or one down? Three, three down. That bitch. Oh, well, I mean, I, here's what I want to say. So we're like eight months into the quarantine. And it's, we don't have a vaccine. We don't have any new treatments. And we have people now just heading out to the local, maybe a new bar. I mean,

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they're not an old bar.

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They're packed in like sardines, sitting at tables with four plus people just dreaming, screaming, shouting, there's maybe some performers on a stage maybe gay performers on stage, running up to less than a foot away from you. screaming at you as well. Also not wearing a mask or a face shield. It's not it's a little disappointing, especially for our community. We're like supposed to be a little progressive and protective of each other and we're exposing each other instead. That's like, I mean, we're not gonna we're not gonna name names. We're not gonna know you know, what I'm seeing on Instagram. And the stories in the videos are disturbing. What I'm realizing in the gay community here in Columbus, Ohio, and this probably goes everywhere. We've had a podcast for a year

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Oh, it's happening I'll probably cut all this out. I love it.

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You are like I love You're going there. It's my Patreon.

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Yeah, we have to go there. I'm really I love how that community like guys, they don't they're really gonna say no, I've literally asked you to come on the show. I've you could have like retweeted something like something anything you know, I'm here. You know, I'm fucking here.

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Yeah, it's right. Yeah, like, you know, we've been literally within like 300 yards.

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Well, the one follows me follows us. Okay.

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So you know, you know, but you don't say find the time.

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No time no shout out. Yep my

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time to make money during a pandemic.

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Hmm, I was thinking it in Jaden fucking setup.

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Sorry, but it's true. I get it. We're all getting I mean, I get

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tired of this. We are literally all tired of it. I'm like

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gays and the AIDS like, we're used to

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it. We're used to pandemic we're like,

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scared of like viruses, you know?

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Yeah, maybe that's why we're there. Like we're

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huddled around a frame. You already said this was a joke, but like, I don't know if it's a joke. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there

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are literally a lot of people in the community that

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I'm on prep, I can get COVID

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they're not taking this seriously.

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I'm just like, a little bit frustrated. That's all and I think when the pandemic is over, I'm gonna call some fuckers out. Like, I'm gonna go to these bars and go Hey, I By the way, I've been doing actually like really good. We've been doing like really legit interview work. Why would you not want to help spread that word? So I think we got some stuff for chest. And we needed to Yeah, we needed to this was like a good little. I feel like it's a really long intro. I feel like so luge

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or splurged his

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name everywhere,

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but at least we have like sexual feelings again, like that's one thing to talk about. Like some of them, well, was are coming into our own.

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Some of us are first time in three days or three weeks. The days people are like, well,

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they're like, Wow, that's a long time. I'm like three weeks is a wild? I don't know what but if you don't have that feeling, you just don't and that's like,

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well, and honestly, that's life, and I'm busy. And I'm tired. And it's a pandemic. You're like, How am I supposed to get turned on? Well,

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what is there to turn you on? Do you want

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I should say what I was watching, but I'm not going well. delivery, and oh, it wasn't delivery this time. It was like stepbrothers amateur style, though. Like it was like, like so like, you know, like professional or like homemade. Yeah, like, I'm into that. Sorry. I'm into that. Like, really? I think it's because I'm so like, emotionally dead that like, I have to have like the mountain that was weird or like weird things. Yeah, I think that's everybody like, Oh, I had a stepbrother like, oh, that and I was watching a rugby coach. Give him a handout because he lost the bat. Oh, yeah.

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These guys are just jacking off big. They're big boys.

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They're big. Wasn't it? Just like Plato's Texas weird, wonderful. It's great. It's gay. But it is. It's super gay.

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But like what if they are? And that's even more fun. But they aren't one of them. Well, they aren't really there by their most not. They're mostly straight. I just think they don't care a lot of money. So it's like, Yeah, when they're like, oh, you're making Viagra You jerk off like, it's not cool. I'll come on. You're like, why was it not much?

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Me gave you $150 for a jerk off. sesh like, okay, it's perfectly fine. I mean, who hasn't done it? Honestly, I'm about to get only fans. So I have one I would say write us and let us know. But you won't write us because you want to get for a book. So all right as you don't care, right? Jim has an only fans and Jim has only fans in you know, you can pay $100 and see his face. You should see this whole when he has it when the unit read that unicorn mask in that hole together. It's hot, hot. It's like a rainbow. Honey. There's like a rainbow coming out of his hole.

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There's glitter coming out of the hole like oh, I am spraying glitter everywhere.

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Oh, fuck me.

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Oh, sorry, rugby coach. I didn't do enough push ups.

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Anyway, we got to get to Michael Burke cuz honey, cuz Honey. Honey, this is gonna be a long episode. Yeah, it is. It's a good one. That's worth it. It's worth that. And now to the stage

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Michael.

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So Hi. Oh my god. Hi. Oh my god. Hi. I'm like other videos. Obviously like the nervousness. I feel that we were talking to you. I'm like, oh my god.

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I'm just a regular girl.

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You're not waiter showing up at our table?

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It's a regular New Yorker. This New York. Oh, it's taking off? What in the fuck is going on? I know. Did you just like randomly say I'm gonna do this and this is now becoming a thing or like, a series?

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I'm my mom's from the Bronx. So like, New York is in my blood? Yeah, it was. It's, um, I can't believe I took me this long to even do it. You know,

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I know cuz I was all about the whole like, nervous nervous act and I still love it. I needed to come back. But listening works. novella is like I'm living for it like it needs on YouTube. Like I think

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we tend to do the accent earlier. We can't do it. Now it makes sense that your mom does she sound like that.

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I mean, I'm like absolutely like dramatizing. Okay, yeah. Yeah. And you need a piece of gum. That's like the only way to actually get into the accent.

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Yeah, you doing?

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You gotta chew it. You gotta chew it. You know when I talk like

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a show. I this this gives me life. I see a new fuck. Yes, thank you, Jesus. You kill me. I don't. I don't actually take off your hat for a second. Okay,

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so like twins, but kinda We got high stuff like this here, but like I'm in, I'm there. Like

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when we're twinning

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is like neck. I don't have my neck too fat to do like the words like so when you do that when you're nervous, the nervous videos, it's you.

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It is. Yeah,

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that is you. Like we looked at what can we say? Tell me a little bit about yourself. Because I'm just gonna do a straight up interview with you. I think that we're gonna go it's gonna go there. We're gonna go wherever it goes. I don't even know where it's gonna go.

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So we're just I don't know, I'm on board. I'm on board for the journey. Okay, so

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tell us a little about your childhood. Tell us about just a little bit about yourself. Like, where did you grow up? Where you religious? How are your parents?

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Like all my childhood trauma? Just start there.

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Yeah, I'm basically out. There's nothing like a trauma

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to get out in the open in the beginning that way. It's like, right after that.

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I mean, I grew up in like New York, some would say upstate New York, I wouldn't. It's Westchester. Okay, everyone who's like if it's north of the city, it's upstate New York. And that's 99% of New York. I still consider myself not upstate, but whatever. That's where I grew up. It was like a very, like Italian American, like suburban town. That was I mean, I played soccer my whole life. I was more of a shy kid. If you can believe Really? Yeah, I like did my mom tells the story. She's like, when you were like 10 or 11. You started talking, and you never stopped.

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Now we want you to shut up.

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haven't stopped just since so. So what did get you into comedy? sorta like I mean, were you always a funny kid once you did start talking? Or was it something that evolved? or?

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Yeah, I think it was probably around when you know, hormones start going and, and then I'm just like, hey, if I'm funny, we're laughing and you're not worried about my sexuality at all. You're just we're just gonna laugh. I'll control the laughs for you guys. And I will dodge the situation.

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I'm just the funny guy. I'm not.

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It don't well, but he's just nice. Like, we don't have to worry about him.

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laugh like, whatever. That's why

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because I didn't play soccer in college because I was like, I just want to be gay in college. And I didn't want there to be a weird locker room experience for anyone. So I was like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna lock that up for myself. Like, could you play it in college? I could have Yeah. Oh, wow.

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So did you do like plays in high school and stuff? Or was that I?

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Yeah. I mean, I I was shy and I like Didn't you know, go for the attention grabbing experiences of high school. So yeah, I never like really did that until I junior year of high school is when I was like, okay, you know, I saw High School Musical. I want to do this. Ironically enough, we were doing High School Musical in our high school, athletic. Let me audition for that. That'd be great. Would love to just be a part of that. I can't sing. So I became they got the role of coach Bolton, which is like, the only non singing part arguably the straightest part in that whole play.

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You haven't seen ever seen.

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Oh, my god, there's dancing.

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Zac Efron in his.

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Honestly true.

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The fact that he wanted to see him.

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Yeah, he's, he's evolved with time. With our tastes. Yes.

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It was hot to you when you were 12. He's hot to you now. Like a fine. Wow. As we're talking to the coach.

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Yeah, coach. Okay, coach, tell us more. More

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in coach put me in there while everyone else is dancing and singing around you.

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Literally. I had like, I don't even I don't even remember. I think I had like, a couple lines the whole time. You know, I like popped in for like three seconds and then left.

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Hey, boys time, hours.

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ran out of town. You guys are gonna have to air dry today.

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It was like, Am I the straightest person in this whole theater production that that's what the role that they gave me.

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Yes, that was hard.

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And then I auditioned for the musical next year, my senior year. And then I didn't make it. I didn't get any

Unknown Speaker  24:05  
musical.

Unknown Speaker  24:06  
It was Little Shop of Horrors. Oh.

Unknown Speaker  24:11  
I haven't seen

Unknown Speaker  24:14  
and I was like, not even like, the tree number four. Like not like, like when I talked to the director, and I was like, Listen, like, I think I might even want to be a director. Like, I'm not even worried about like, trying to be in the production. I was like, I just want to, you know, help out and like, learn to direct. And she was like, Alright, let me think about it. And then then very next day, she's like, No, why? And I was just like, well, I'm trying to get an education here. So whatever.

Unknown Speaker  24:40  
What is she doing that? I mean, that's like a perfect opportunity to for to educate. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  24:46  
But I mean, it worked itself out. I liked I started making videos with my friends because of all my free time that happened. And then so

Unknown Speaker  24:54  
here we are. And were you on Vine back in the day.

Unknown Speaker  24:57  
Yeah, yes. Oh,

Unknown Speaker  24:59  
oh, um, Sorry, I'm

Unknown Speaker  25:01  
just watching old vine videos on YouTube and like vines to save your life. Remember that? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  25:09  
There. There's so many good ones. I know

Unknown Speaker  25:11  
like the little Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  25:13  
What was your screen name on Vine?

Unknown Speaker  25:15  
It was I think it was D, Michael B. It was like similar to what it is now,

Unknown Speaker  25:20  
but just shorten DMV, DMV, Matthews. And that's what I keep saying in my c span.

Unknown Speaker  25:28  
I drew my initials for like my art teacher. She was like, just draw whatever you want. And she was like, oh my god. Do you love the Dave Matthews Band? Like I love the Dave Matthews Band. What's your favorite song? Like did it under that? And I was just like, Oh, um, oh, these are my initials.

Unknown Speaker  25:40  
Also, what I'm hothead, so actually, sorry.

Unknown Speaker  25:45  
Speak for yourself, honey.

Unknown Speaker  25:46  
I'm sorry. My art teacher was in GMB and high school and she was in the kiln she would go smoke a joint you just smell the marijuana

Unknown Speaker  25:53  
that's coming off her. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  25:54  
we have something in the kiln room. It was

Unknown Speaker  25:58  
really get into Dave Matthews Band that much. When that was really like a loser in the school or

Unknown Speaker  26:04  
high school. You don't know High School, you guys. I'm so gay guys. Hi.

Unknown Speaker  26:09  
Oh, wow. Yes. I didn't see the same productions. I was watching. I don't wear

Unknown Speaker  26:14  
you watch. I don't watch an NFL sport.

Unknown Speaker  26:18  
Bro. A mask.

Unknown Speaker  26:20  
Oh my god. I can't watch sports. Get out of here.

Unknown Speaker  26:23  
Ask that for three against one. So bye.

Unknown Speaker  26:26  
Bye. You're voted off. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  26:27  
that was really quick. Like a survivor. You're done. 123 and you're I'll take your torch. You can leave I mean, this is my equipments on plug your fucking asses. Oh, yeah, I pulled it out. Okay.

Unknown Speaker  26:39  
Well, he's not playing games. That was

Unknown Speaker  26:42  
that was what I had to pull that like,

Unknown Speaker  26:45  
so you did fine. But then like, did you how did you get into tic Tock cuz I don't even know when tick that came out and cold. So I don't

Unknown Speaker  26:51  
know I did vine to just for myself. And like 30 of my friends. You know, that's like as far as it went. But then I truly got into vine because of the pin. I mean, got into tic Tock because of the pandemic, right? Because I was doing comedy in LA like improv and just like, you know, having fun trying to figure comedy world out. And then the pandemic hits me and a couple my friends. We were all like, Oh my god, do we figure out tik tok right now? Like, do we really have to figure this out? We are because being on Vine you just remember yelling at old people for being on it anyways, and old was you know, my age of 29? Like I'm considered old. And

Unknown Speaker  27:28  
Gene

Unknown Speaker  27:30  
20 Oh, yes.

Unknown Speaker  27:32  
That's it. That's it, though. Because I'm old at a

Unknown Speaker  27:35  
young age of 22. I just

Unknown Speaker  27:39  
I think it was like

Unknown Speaker  27:40  
2015 Yeah, a

Unknown Speaker  27:42  
while ago and on, you said to when I got it for the first time. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna put the podcast on there. And then you Dave said, Oh, that's the thing again, like it had something and then it's and then it went away. And now it's like the biggest thing ever. Maybe.

Unknown Speaker  27:57  
Yeah. Oh, and literally wasn't

Unknown Speaker  27:59  
sure I think it was like called music Glee or something with like a P. Then it turned into tik tok. I don't know what year it turned into. ticktock

Unknown Speaker  28:08  
like, how did you figure out tik tok musically was just for like it started it's like music videos like you would do like voiceovers. Yeah, like music. Oh, I

Unknown Speaker  28:17  
saw I was saying

Unknown Speaker  28:19  
that wasn't like 27

Unknown Speaker  28:22  
just counting what

Unknown Speaker  28:23  
you're working on now. Oh, I remember.

Unknown Speaker  28:26  
Last year, I just remember that song from like, musically, it was like that. And it was just people like dressed in costume. Like going like, I don't like camera.

Unknown Speaker  28:35  
That's funny.

Unknown Speaker  28:38  
I'm so lost in this interview, honey. Like I really thought

Unknown Speaker  28:43  
yeah, I love that. Oh,

Unknown Speaker  28:46  
is he on how to figure out like I'm gonna be like, I still don't know. I don't have it downloaded. You just press

Unknown Speaker  28:51  
play. You said

Unknown Speaker  28:52  
it record. I thought it was banned.

Unknown Speaker  28:54  
It's not bad. Trump said it was it's not gonna be now. I know.

Unknown Speaker  28:57  
There's just so much information coming at us left and right. Like how are we supposed to organize?

Unknown Speaker  29:02  
Right? Right.

Unknown Speaker  29:05  
Our writing thing

Unknown Speaker  29:08  
we like we'll go into his rally in Oklahoma right that's threatened.

Unknown Speaker  29:13  
Elsa, because all you do is come up with a fucking trench vote on. The other thing

Unknown Speaker  29:17  
too, is that Walmart is partly taking over that joint venture and you know, he has

Unknown Speaker  29:24  
loved Trump they love him. So anyways, we're digressing we went I digress. So back to when you just first join tik tok.

Unknown Speaker  29:32  
So your friends and you you're like, let's figure out Tick Tock. So you download it. What do you What are you trying to get out of it? I guess at that point.

Unknown Speaker  29:40  
I was just I mean, I knew that absolutely. I wasn't gonna dive in and start posting videos because there's no way to understand the type of humor like what's happening on there. What are people doing? What do I want to watch? Like, you know, like, it's so it took me like a full month before I even posted like my first video and it was

Unknown Speaker  29:59  
like You know,

Unknown Speaker  30:02  
evolutionary scene,

Unknown Speaker  30:03  
it was like it's like a it was like a it's not. I mean, it's a weird video it's like different from what I was doing now and just like a short little like weird song pretty much just because I was like up in the middle of the night watching Tick Tock till like four in the morning. I'm like,

Unknown Speaker  30:17  
because like, I can do that easily.

Unknown Speaker  30:19  
You just drown and then you get that person who's like you should remember go to bed stop watching Tick Tock and I'm like, stop and you just keep going.

Unknown Speaker  30:26  
No, mine Tick Tock is full of like you bouncing crotchett

Unknown Speaker  30:29  
First of all, it's bouncing crotch race when

Unknown Speaker  30:34  
I get like funeral parlors all the sudden like, Oh, yeah, I have no idea where that came from. I get like military.

Unknown Speaker  30:40  
Yes. military men doing exercise.

Unknown Speaker  30:42  
Military like reunions. Dog. It's like the worst combination I've ever heard in my life. It's like, flopping I'm like, wow, I'm crying over fluffies last No wonder

Unknown Speaker  30:54  
he's up till 4am Yeah, like

Unknown Speaker  30:57  
I've seen Well, I gotta keep going the guy get really sad. Floppy.

Unknown Speaker  31:02  
Great guys are like the straight guys. They love showing their decks. They do. I mean unit. Yeah. Or honey, it comes up

Unknown Speaker  31:10  
for me. I did this impression video.

Unknown Speaker  31:15  
Yeah, I loved that. I remember now,

Unknown Speaker  31:19  
just like a trigger warning for the end if anyone's gonna watch it. People have turned on me in a nice way. They're just like, this warned me next time.

Unknown Speaker  31:27  
That's when I know it was actually unexpected, but I was like, I like packing.

Unknown Speaker  31:31  
Oh, trigger warning. Are we talking here?

Unknown Speaker  31:34  
Oh, honey, you need How

Unknown Speaker  31:35  
am I gonna trigger?

Unknown Speaker  31:38  
oatmeal? It's Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  31:47  
I was like, What? actually watch it like for like four times back in a row. And I was like, Did he like stop it really quick and then spit it out? Or do you have in his mouth the whole time? like watching like, does he open his mouth and want to watch it after that? Oh, that mouth is full. It was way back. He's like, Oh, it was a lot that came out honey.

Unknown Speaker  32:04  
I'm just saying, okay, Bobby's been watching.

Unknown Speaker  32:07  
Like measuring. I know when I hit the 40

Unknown Speaker  32:10  
time I was like,

Unknown Speaker  32:12  
the leader of oatmeal or

Unknown Speaker  32:15  
vomiting that oatmeal

Unknown Speaker  32:16  
out of it. I mean,

Unknown Speaker  32:20  
we got to get ready.

Unknown Speaker  32:21  
We, we reopen? Okay, you're in LA you decide, Okay, I gotta leave. Where do you go? Like, where are you?

Unknown Speaker  32:28  
I go to my parents just moved to North Carolina, which is where I am now. So pretty much just like squatting. With my parents. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  32:36  
So we're okay. I think you're at the beach though. Right? Because I feel like I see you Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  32:40  
like, yeah, we're right on the beach. That's why I came here. I was like, you know, what if? Yeah, thing all the theaters are shut down in LA. I was like, I was a server comedian. So I was like, my restaurants closed. And then it was like half capacity, and then it was closed again. I was like, I don't have the financial security to play this game. I was like, I am gonna bounce. And I'll come back. A lot of people did

Unknown Speaker  33:01  
bounce like a lot.

Unknown Speaker  33:02  
I bounced early. And then every one of my friends is like, that was the smartest decision you've ever made. Everyone's leaving now like did it like this this theater is closed this theater is closed like everything is like changing over there. I just

Unknown Speaker  33:13  
can't like some like this would shut down towns like say the whole city. Yeah, I think because actually going through something like this because they're like we don't do work at home or in the office anymore. So we can just why would you out there? Yeah, on this.

Unknown Speaker  33:23  
They are they're moving out of the city can save $1,000 a month on your rent? Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker  33:28  
Yeah, how much is rent? They're like,

Unknown Speaker  33:30  
Oh, LA. San.

Unknown Speaker  33:32  
Yeah. Where did you live in LA? I lived in the valley. If you guys were in like we Whoa. Of course, we ran over it. We stayed in over the Hollywood Hills. It's like, oh, okay, cool.

Unknown Speaker  33:43  
Like when we turned to me came on. We were late. And we were at the wrong entrance to the whole property.

Unknown Speaker  33:48  
Right. Because the whole picture of me Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  33:50  
we messed up

Unknown Speaker  33:52  
picture of IPA. We basically went out there to like, try to do podcast stuff into CLA. We ended up getting high and drunk the whole time. I mean, I was high as fuck the whole time.

Unknown Speaker  33:59  
Like, I mean, that's LA. So you didn't do it wrong. I agree. I

Unknown Speaker  34:04  
really do a week. Have you ever

Unknown Speaker  34:06  
had I don't know if you've I don't know if you do marijuana.

Unknown Speaker  34:11  
But there's not incriminate you is a fan out there. It's called can ca n n. And it's a drink like kind of hits you and you're like, I'm a little giggly. It's almost like wine. And then you have another one is the best. I love that. So I recommend that when you get back out there, just

Unknown Speaker  34:25  
great. Noted. I will write it down and I will I'm gonna send you a link because

Unknown Speaker  34:29  
I follow them. I'm like, Hi there. I know. I'm like where we are. Yeah, we're in Ohio.

Unknown Speaker  34:36  
So

Unknown Speaker  34:37  
I was actually Columbus, Ohio is really good though,

Unknown Speaker  34:39  
is I'm just

Unknown Speaker  34:40  
saying if you've never been hurt, it's a refuge. It's got good food.

Unknown Speaker  34:43  
So improv. When did you get into that? How did you find out about it? What did you do? I thought I mean, how did I find out about it? I mean, I found out about I think just from you know, a fan of SNL, and then you just kind of Google I remember googling like Kristen Wiig. Like, what, what did she do? Yeah. And then, and it was like she moved to LA or she, like she did went to school, not for anything. And then she moved to LA when she was 23. And she was like, I felt so old. But I moved there at 23. And I was just like, and I was 23 at the time, and I was just like, I can do it. Mine so and she did like, she went to the Groundlings. It's like the Groundlings and you see the, like Second City or like the three main, you know, schools of improv. And to the Groundlings was like, I'm gonna go to LA and figure that out for myself.

Unknown Speaker  35:36  
And you did.

Unknown Speaker  35:37  
Yeah. And improbable change your life

Unknown Speaker  35:39  
where you like I did. Well, I didn't. I tried it once. I didn't do great at it. But I went to improv in high school every Saturday night we would go cuz I was in like with the crowd that wasn't super popular. So the funny the fun, the ones that are like amazing, the ones who are nice and except you and go to like, we would go to the theater every Saturday, it was really fun. And you tried it. I tried it once. Today, I felt a lot of pressure and the anxiety just built up, out and then it was like, I'm just gonna be in the audience. I'd rather be

Unknown Speaker  36:07  
a fan. I feel like I'd be really nervous. But also I'd have to be like, it's a thrill isn't the like, there's a rule like you have to say yes to everything kind of like that. Yeah. Or like unspoken. Like, oh, yeah, I researched. Honey,

Unknown Speaker  36:21  
you have to disagree. Yeah, everything. But that's not you don't have to necessarily like people don't have to. If they tell you something, you don't have to go. Yes. You don't have to literally say it. Like when I can just

Unknown Speaker  36:32  
agree. Like, you don't want to like skip around either. You want to stay as long as you can on the certain thing that's happening. Is that right? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  36:38  
Because that's the whole point. It's like whatever I brought up. He's

Unknown Speaker  36:41  
a professional. Listen, you're

Unknown Speaker  36:43  
perfect. See, this is what we needed to talk about. You know

Unknown Speaker  36:45  
about this. He wants to get into skipped High School

Unknown Speaker  36:47  
Musical. Yeah, I know.

Unknown Speaker  36:48  
Well, I scuzzy. Now we know, we got the root of it. And now you know, you've grown into a butterfly and now you're going to improv school. Or you were, and that's amazing. So what was were you like, good at first, or were you like, horrible or get like, no. laughs I mean,

Unknown Speaker  37:06  
I think it's like, for most for me, it was like, you have like a little bit of Beginner's luck. You're like, Okay, I'm, you know, I'm funny. I think I'm funny, like, let's see. And then you're like, Oh, great, great, great. But then you just fall into the tropes of like, stuff that you do, like, where it's like, oh, this is what was funny to my friends here and back in New York, you know, and then you then you're bad for like, a year or two. You're just horrible. You're, everything you do is wrong. You're like, Oh, my God, I haven't had a good show. Like, I'm not even funny anymore. Like, you're just trying to remember the rules. And like, so many things you're like, trying to think about in your head. And then like, at some point, you just go fuck it and you're like, Whatever happens happens. And then all of a sudden, that's like the magic.

Unknown Speaker  37:45  
Yeah, yeah. A lot of times when you overthink, it's the worst. Like I'm because,

Unknown Speaker  37:49  
yeah, for sure. And improv literally, like for anyone who wants to take it, it makes you a better person. Like truly just

Unknown Speaker  37:57  
because you gave me a quote, I sorry, I can't think of

Unknown Speaker  38:01  
everybody written down. Trust me. It's

Unknown Speaker  38:03  
raw

Unknown Speaker  38:04  
are all life's lessons can be learned through improv or something like that. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  38:08  
yeah. Yes. Yeah, I'll stand by that. Forever. That was my interest. Because it, it puts you like you said, like, you, you put you on stage and you're anxious, you're like, this is gonna go horrible. You have all this fear that you've just created for yourself. When at the end of the day, like, you have a bad show, you leave the show, and you're like, Okay, I'm still alive. Like, like, everything's going, there will be and also, when you start getting good at it, you're like, you're quicker to respond, like engaging with people. You're like, Oh, I can. I'm not nervous about this conversation right now. Like, I can handle it, you know,

Unknown Speaker  38:42  
like, in real life, like in

Unknown Speaker  38:44  
real life, you can improve anything. I mean, you can improve anything you need to improve my wife.

Unknown Speaker  38:50  
I do, I think, but I'd be scared. shitless

Unknown Speaker  38:53  
I feel like you'd be good at it. You're quick.

Unknown Speaker  38:55  
I don't feel like I'm that quick. That's the problem. But unless

Unknown Speaker  38:58  
you don't even it's not about being quick. It's just about like, you can take it slow. Like, you know, there's, you think that it's like about being smarter and funnier and faster than everybody, but it's just about doing just like trusting it and not getting nervous and just like doing it. Like if I'm like, hey, do you want a cup of coffee? You? You just say yes. A cup of coffee. Nothing about that was funny, but like,

Unknown Speaker  39:18  
you could just be like that.

Unknown Speaker  39:19  
Yes, yes. Yes. I'd have something. Am I doing this right? I say yes. Actually that Yeah, though.

Unknown Speaker  39:25  
Yes. I'll have coffee.

Unknown Speaker  39:27  
Yeah, then that's your character now that like monotonous.

Unknown Speaker  39:30  
does say monitor you once called. I was booed off and your job. I learned something. I learned that I can put myself out there and get yourself out there. No, seriously, I can see how that really does help in real life like it would because I get really anxious.

Unknown Speaker  39:44  
I have social anxiety. Oh, sorry. Wow. RP session. I have social anxiety. Packing. I mean.

Unknown Speaker  39:56  
That's what's so funny about our podcast. Our podcast is like, We're close. We're clusterfuck only because like we're both we're both the most anxious people ever heard a podcast, but we hate talking to people. Like we don't hate talking to people, but like, it takes me a second to get like comfortable. Yeah. And so when we're starting to talk to all these people like you actually I'm really comfortable with you. last interview was not as comfortable. We're not I'm

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